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To: average joe who wrote (99601)3/27/2013 4:17:49 PM
From: Maurice Winn2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218008
 
What a load of malarkey. Amerindians were genocidal hunter gatherer alpha male dominance hierarchy tribal territorialists who did not "manage" their environment. They were part of the animal world which hunted as best they could. With low human numbers, they couldn't obliterate the landscape because they depended on it, and as much as they could succeed, they starved themselves out and died off in droves. Just like rabbits eating themselves out of house and home and wolves eating every last rabbit they can get their jaws on before dying off in droves for lack of rabbits. <But now, in recent years, the wisdom of Indian land management policies is increasingly difficult to cover up." > Yes, if nearly everyone dies, then the remainder could live like they did back then - nobody, including the descendants of the Amerindians, wants to live like that, though some of them like to pose and pretend they are "natives" living an ecological life [while they roar around on snowmobiles with high-powered rifles and Globalstar phones].

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To: average joe who wrote (99601)3/27/2013 8:51:26 PM
From: GPS Info  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 218008
 
Hello Ponokee,

So we have swung from retirement hobbies to forest management. OK.

I guess your main point is the American Indians altered their environment:

To solve that embarrassment, everybody pretended that the Indians had never altered the landscape. These pioneer ecologists, as Stuart Udall once called them, did not manipulate the land. But now, in recent years, the wisdom of Indian land management policies is increasingly difficult to cover up."

This is a interesting idea, but I can't get a feel for the timeframe or the extent of the changes. Do you have any more information on this?

For comparisons sake, "more than 580,000 square kilometers (224,000 square miles) of Amazon forest has [been] destroyed in Brazil since 1980."

See: mongabay.com



(edit: inadvertent bolding.)



To: average joe who wrote (99601)3/28/2013 9:48:42 AM
From: Amelia Carhartt1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 218008
 
Don't even get me started on the Forest Service. I live in a National Forest. Those people are so f'ing stupid it hurts. They screw everything up, get a handsome salary to do it and retire with a fine pension. I can tell you many real life stories. And, best of all? You and I get to pay for it!