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To: combjelly who wrote (708420)4/10/2013 6:42:34 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 1570520
 
combelly works for ACORN.



To: combjelly who wrote (708420)4/10/2013 7:37:34 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 1570520
 
Hi combjelly; Re: "But to rush into it with no proof it even occurs and risking disenfranchising a large number of voters?"

The reason there's little proof that it occurs is because (a) there's almost no way for it to be caught and (b) few people are checking up on it.

For example, a newspaper in Seattle decided to compare the lists of newly dead people with the voter lists and found 8 dead people that voted:

Dead voted in governor's race
King County investigating 'ghost voter' cases
seattlepi.com

Some of the dead votes were done by people voting for them, but given the laxity of our voting laws it's much easier to vote multiple times by simply filling out multiple voter applications with fake data.

When you use fake names you don't have to worry about the voter being reported as dead. Under current regulations, it's simply not possible to discover that sort of fraud. But since the fraud that you can locate does exist, it suggests that the other type probably does too.

And what's sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander. Can you name anyone who actually got disenfranchised by the requirement that they identify themselves? Lots of people get "disenfranchised" because they're not registered to vote. I know plenty of people who don't bother to vote. But photo ID? Everyone I've every known has it.

-- Carl



To: combjelly who wrote (708420)4/10/2013 7:37:56 PM
From: i-node6 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1570520
 
It is just common sense that we need to require every voter to have a voter ID card. Problem solved. It doesn't have to be rushed, there is plenty of time to do it, it costs very little, and there is no reason NOT to do it.

Voter fraud DOES occur. People DO vote multiple times, or vote when they're ineligible, or votes aren't counted when they should be. These are NOT difficult systems problems to resolve.

It is clear that the Dems just want to make it effortless at any cost -- even if fraudulent votes occur. It is a really stupid argument to anyone who knows anything about fraud prevention.



To: combjelly who wrote (708420)4/20/2013 12:39:45 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1570520
 
We might want to encourage Dave to emigrate to Europe where they practice the kind of economics he likes.

Europe austerity strategy is hurting growth, IMF says


IMF officials and outside experts said it was clear that government belt-tightening was taking a toll on growth, especially in struggling Eurozone economies.


latimes.com