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To: Alighieri who wrote (713757)	5/7/2013 11:42:01 AM
From: joseffy	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1579312

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To: Alighieri who wrote (713757)	5/7/2013 11:57:18 AM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1579312

When you get done arguing with yourself, let me know. There is no "free" health care, and what there is certainly does not apply to "all citizens". No one said their is, you just started complaining about it out of the blue. repeat, repeat, repeat. By the way, how does that square with "conservative" values? Conservatives in general have been for a free market system of health care and against the idea of socialized medicine.

To: Alighieri who wrote (713757)	5/7/2013 12:30:06 PM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1579312

>> Medicare Part D, a republican initiative, is not "free", even though bush chose to not pay for it. Your hypocrisy on Part D is among your worst, although there are plenty to choose from. Medicare Part D passed the Senate with a strong bipartisan vote 76-21. Even in the house, where it barely passed, the big complaint from Democrats was that it didn't spend enough (and Obamacare, after a few short years, "fixed" that). A total of nine Democrats in the House supported a benefit they had demanded for years. Not one Democrat, in the floor debate, criticized the bill for costing too much. Part D is the ONE government run health care program that actually has come in consistently under budget. In fact, it is one of the FEW government programs EVER to come in under budget. The cost had been initially estimated at 634 Billion, and by 2008 it had dropped to 400 Billion -- $40 Billion a year. And that doesn't count the savings in Part A and Part B that resulted from the program --itself considerable. By any metric, prior to Obamacare's destruction of the program, Medicare Part D was a resounding success. The net cost of the program, after offsets, was minimal -- solely because of the ingenius way in which GWB structured the program (which was, of course, destroyed by Obamacare). Most of the savings in Part D was a direct result of the so called "doughnut hole" -- which caused seniors to become more aware of the money they were spending and, in effect, to popularize the use of generic drugs. Obamcare removes this, which will obviously drive the cost of Part D up radically. Yet, you seem to have no problem supporting it after Obamacare. That's hypocrisy, any way you cut it.