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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (715782)5/16/2013 5:42:26 PM
From: SilentZ1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1583680
 
>You would have to work overtime to deny or exclude the proof of Jesus' existence, and the only motivation for that would be a predisposition to believe that Jesus never existed.

Not at all. You just gave me three links that proved that Christians existed in the late 1st century. But we also know that there are groups like Raelians and Scientologists whose religions were created in the last few decades but that their deities don't exist or their creation stories aren't true.

The closest your articles really come to trying to prove the existence of Jesus is through this strange inductive argument: "Can we prove that Alexander the Great, or Plato, or Socretes all existed? All we have are ancient manuscripts that mention them and claim to be copies of copies of their writings. Yet, most people don’t have any problem believing they existed."

The answer is, yes. We can archaeologically track Alexander's conquests and there are contemporary records of his existence. We know what he looked like because people created busts, statues, and coins bearing his likeness during his lifetime. Plato seems to have written a lot and probably existed. Aristophanes wrote about Socrates during Socrates' supposed lifetime... he may have existed. It doesn't matter that much to me. If Socrates' and Plato's philosophies make sense, they make sense no matter who wrote them. (I've never read them)

But no one (or very few) are creating their entire worldviews around any of those three people, anyway.

This isn't proof, Tench.

-Z