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To: tejek who wrote (715853)5/16/2013 6:10:54 PM
From: MakeMyDay5 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1583507
 
Marines are trained to serve the president who is their Commander in Chief. EOS.

Their job is NOT to serve the President. Their job is to serve the country. He is supposed to direct them on how to do that.

Exactly where do you draw the line? Should a Marine blow his nose for him? Wipe his butt for him? Light his cigarette for him? How many other things should the Marines do that he is perfectly capable of doing for himself?



To: tejek who wrote (715853)5/16/2013 6:28:20 PM
From: Tenchusatsu2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1583507
 
Ted,
Marines are trained to serve the president who is their Commander in Chief.
No they aren't. They are trained to serve their country and the Constitution of the United States. This is an important distinction that all members of the military are taught from day one.

This is how, for example, soldiers can disobey illegal orders, or be court-martialed for obeying said illegal orders. They can't use the excuse, "I was just following orders," because they should know who or what they serve.

Having said that, though, I do think it's silly to discuss this because some Marine was ordered to hold an umbrella for Obama. An Admiral of the Navy can tell some seaman to go walk his dog, and no one is going to bitch about that (no pun intended).

Tenchusatsu



To: tejek who wrote (715853)5/17/2013 1:45:20 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1583507
 
People come to loath people in power who order them to perform demeaning tasks.

As a teenaged volunteer in a local militia, Andrew Jackson refused an order by a British officer to polish his boots, and the officer angrily drew his sword and slashed Jackson across his hand and head with it, and imprisoned him. For the rest of his life Jackson loathed the British.

I guess things change though...

Founder of the Democratic Party.
The iconic Western folk hero, Nicknamed "Old Hickory" by his admirers, typified popular democracy in the "Jacksonian Age" of the 1830s and 1840s, and became the leader of Jacksonian Democracy. He was the founder of the Democratic Party and its hero because of his strong use of the federal government to bash conservatives and banks; the poor farmers and workers loved him because he embodied their hopes and fears, their passions and prejudices, their insight and ignorance, better than anyone.

Now sheltered urban dems living in gated communities hate poor farmers