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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (9717)12/6/1997 8:01:00 AM
From: Robert E. Hall  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 39621
 
Greetings Alan, Who is a Jew ? , Let the word of God speak for itself. ROMANS 2:28-29, " For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit,not by the letter, and his praise is not from men, but from God ". One might call himself a jew according to their place of birth or ancestry but today unless you have the faith of Abraham in your heart you are not the true Jew according to the Bible. We are living in in the New Covenant. I have personally met jewish brothers and sisters in Christ who have recognized that Jesus is the Christ, the promised One and I have equal love for all my brethren . You tell me to open my heart, well you should heed that advice yourself and consider that Our Lord Jesus Christ is the fullfillment of scripture according to the promise given to Abraham. GALATIONS 3:28-29. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male or female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abrahams offspring, heirs according to promise. Please consider these words from our Lord Jesus Christ. " I am the way, the truth, and the life , no man cometh unto the Father , but through Me, If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him. May God , by His Holy Spirit grant you to see this cornerstone of truth. Robert



To: Alan Markoff who wrote (9717)12/6/1997 11:23:00 AM
From: Emile Vidrine  Respond to of 39621
 
"I read your post I find it hard to agree with anything that you stated allot of fancy words that seem dangerous to me being Jewish."

I sense in my heart that the Holy Spirit has touched your heart with the revelation that the crucified Jesus Christ is the Messiah. You must now take a hold on that revelation with all humility and trembling, and not in arrogance and pride of race or nation. There are many false brethren that would try to build up your pride in Judaism or Zionist Israel. The people that try to build your pride are not speaking for God but for the evil one. Pride is the one thing that can surely block the grace of God that wants to poor into your heart. The words that Robert has written are given to you to help you come into a deeper revelation of Christ.
It is not Robert's words that are dangerous--his words are true-- but the foolishness taught by "confused Zionist christians" and Messianic Jews are the dangerous words. In Jesus, you find the fullness of the Kingdom of God and the fullness of the New Covenant.

"For all the promises of God in Him (JESUS) are yea, and in Him Amen, unto the glory of God by us." IICor. 1:20

"He is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesha:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly: and circumcision is that of the heart,...


Alan, Jesus wants to recreate your spirit and make you a Born Again child of God. Jesus took all your sins on the cross and He offers you the righteousness of God--the goodness and nature of God. You can become a real and bona fide son of God through faith in Jesus.
The one thing that can block your new birth and growth into the fullness of God's grace in PRIDE. The Zionist "christians" and the "Messianic Jews" are attempting to build up your pride in your Jewish heritage and race. It is not your race or your Jewish heritage that will bring you into the fullness of Jesus's grace but your humility--a broken spirit and a contrite heart.
Jesus does not love you because you call yourself a Jew, or an Anglo-Saxon, or a Frenchman, but Jesus loves you because you are a son of adam who was created in the image and likenss of God. The Judaism of the Old Testatment died 2000 years ago when Jesus was raised from the dead and formed the New Jerusalem, the New Nation of Israel in Jesus's blood. The Kingdom of God has been established for almost 2000 years and their is only one way to enter that Kingdom---Faith in Jesus Christ.

When God destroyed the Temple in 70 A.D., He destroyed the Ark of the Covenant, He destroyed the Aaronic priesthood, He destroyed the Levitical Priesthood, He destroyed the genealogy tables---in short, God destroyed the Old Covenant Judaism. God had fulfilled all the promises to Israel in His Son Jesus Christ. He had recreated the Spirit of man through the Crucifixion and Resurrection of His Son.
A NEW NATION had been created in One Day when Jesus rose from the dead. For two thousand years that new nation--the New Israel of God- has been called Christians.

"..Ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelout light:"

You can become a full member of God New Israel but you cannot have dual citizenship in this New Israel in Jesus's blood. You have to make a choice between the Kingdom of God or the false kingdom of antichrist Judaism and Zionism.

I pray that Christ will give you the grace to act according to His will. I love you and I have joined myself in your struggle for liberation from the forces of darkness. Jesus loves you and desires your fellowship.

Jesus is the only door into the Kingdom of God. All other doors are an illusion and a deception from the evil one.

Emile



To: Alan Markoff who wrote (9717)12/6/1997 9:06:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker  Respond to of 39621
 
My goodness Alan, you must have been reading my mind--about
"turning him into some freak". My thoughts exactly from time to time, and I have this strange mind that sees too many sides, and that's good because for anyone that talks as much as I do, I have to or
I would be set upon by an angry mob.

Just please don't get mad and leave. There are some beautiful minds here and there is nothing like troubling the waters to bring forth the truth of the matter that each of us should hold. That is why I've been talking about this matter. So we can all see it quite clearly and break down some stupid barriers in so doing.

I have to go eat. I've done absolutely nothing all day long except
debate. I feel like I've time-tripped back to the Middle Ages when this is all they did....

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