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To: koan who wrote (46653)6/22/2013 6:00:24 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 85487
 
psycho



To: koan who wrote (46653)6/22/2013 6:04:44 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation

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Oh, he sells things. To companies. That's bad. He's not a brother miner.

Sheesh, the products and services he provides make mining safer and his testimony is that unions are sometimes a barrier to technology that will improve safety for the miners.



To: koan who wrote (46653)6/22/2013 6:16:03 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 85487
 
Your whole post is a personal attack against Jorj. where's moderator ?

"So what the hell do you care what happens to miners"

pure hate speech, you should be banished from SI



To: koan who wrote (46653)6/22/2013 8:16:48 PM
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Ah, so you are not actually a coal miner, you are a salesman. You sort of indicated you were a brother miner.

Being in a zillion mines does not mean shit if you are not actually in the same boat with the miners.

Salesmen sell to companies not to miners. So what the hell do you care what happens to miners? You need to keep the company happy so they will buy your product which means you must oppose the working miner.

Just as I expected-lol!


I didn't "sort of indicate" anything of the sort. I indicated quite the opposite. I made it clear that I have been in around 120 mines around the world. No miner could possibly work in that many mines in that dispersed of an area. And I never claimed to be in the same boat as the miners, though I have certainly sustained injuries in mines and I have seen some pretty brutal things happen to others right in front of me (the worst being a 15' diameter roll of conveyor belt crush a man's leg). Having been in as many mines as I have, I can tell you which mines take safety seriously and which ones don't. In the bottom photo, you'll notice that I am not wearing safety glasses. It was an honest mistake. I normally wear them (it's required), but I took them off for some reason. In any other mine, there would have been someone there who would have insisted that I follow safety rules. And if you knew anything about mining, you would be able to tell that the fact that I was wearing a white cap means that I wasn't certified to be alone in a mine at the time the photo was taken. But in that mine, they didn't really care. They left me and another colleague in a section of the mine with our own buggy and let us work on our own for 12 hours (on top of being a sales guy, I am very technical and I design the networks too). shortly after that photo was taken, I sustained my second worst mining injury. Stupid mistake....if you notice, that is what is called "low coal" it means that you can't stand up. It was about 42" thick. I forgot that I was in low coal and I tried to stand up quickly. Jammed a roof bolt about 1" into my back. Blood everywhere, it was ugly. That was a union mine. I've been knocked out cold in a mine. I have had 20lb chucks of black shale fall on me. In other words, mines are hazardous and anybody who spends time in them will get hurt. But most importantly, the mines who take safety most seriously are not union mines. And the reason for that.....the miners think it is the mine owner's job to take safety seriously. In non-union mines, everyone knows that it is everyone's job to take safety seriously.

Again, your words betray your ignorance. Anybody who has been exposed to mining in a meaningful way, liberal or conservative, knows that I am not making this up. You, on the other hand, are simply spouting liberal diarrhea.



To: koan who wrote (46653)6/23/2013 12:26:04 PM
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jlallen

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Koan, you sell houses, not build them. Further, you're a company man .... aren't you an agent of one of the nationwide realtors? Which makes your attempted putdown of jorg another example of liberal hypocrisy.