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To: Little Joe who wrote (46776)	6/24/2013 12:25:11 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 85487

I consider it a potential child in utero. It becomes a child when the head is hallway out. A core text in rabbinic law crystallizes the status of the fetus. The Mishna explicitly indicates that one must abort a fetus if the continuation of pregnancy might imperil the life of the woman. If a woman is in hard travail, one cuts up the offspring in her womb and brings it forth member by member, because her life comes before the life of her foetus. But if the greater part has proceeded forth, one may not set aside one person for the sake of saving another. [9] According to the text this can be done until the point of yatza rubo (????? ??????), that "the greater part has proceeded forth". [10] This is taken to refer to the emergence of the baby during childbirth. [11] In Talmudic law, an embryo is not deemed a fully viable person (bar kayyama), but rather a being of "doubtful viability" (Niddah 44b). Hence, for instance, Jewish mourning rites do not apply to an unborn child. The status of the embryo is also indicated by its treatment as "an appendage of its mother" (ubar yerekh 'imo Hullin 58a) for such matters as ownership, maternal conversion and purity law. [12] In even more evocative language, the Talmud states in a passage on priestly rules that the fetus "is considered to be mere water" until its 40th day. [13] In another passage the Talmud speaks of a "moment of determination" and a "moment of creation" in regard to different stages of the fetus. [14] Rashi explains that the moment of creation is when bones and arteries begin to form [15] and in other places he says that the "moment of creation" is at the 40th day. [16 en.wikipedia.org