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To: Brumar89 who wrote (39637)7/26/2013 6:37:41 PM
From: Solon  Respond to of 69300
 
"Darwinists claim they’re defending the integrity of science and education"

That really pisses superstitious Nims off, big time! Intelligent people are simply not going to give the world back to sub-humans with their primitive torture devices and their contempt for ALL human Rights and Freedoms. NOT GONNA HAPPEN, sparrow! ;-)



To: Brumar89 who wrote (39637)7/27/2013 10:14:18 AM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
Funny, there’s nothing in Nagel's impersonal, non-theistic case against materialism that supports & sympathizes with the religious point of view so the jumping up & down is a little premature? It certainly is not endorsing but rejecting the Biblical pov and really does nothing to unseat the theory of evolution.

But what i find fascinating, this is exactly what could lead to the inclusion of pantheism back into the philosophy of science i mentioned evolving before. That would be atheism by your narrow definitions but could very see future generations open & find new mythical realms. If you think clearly in what you are endorsing in Nagel, have only one more thing to add here: Welcome to GAIA !

Nagel poses to be sorely unconvinced a neo-Darwinian mechanism could produce the following in a
physicalist universe, though haven't a clue how a philosopher only can weigh into such technical areas:

1. The emergence of life from a lifeless universe in such a short time.
2. The preponderance of diversity and complexity among life forms in such a short time.
3. The production of consciousness from unconscious matter.
4. The existence of objective standards of value and rationality and creatures endowed with the cognitive equipment to grasp them.

There was plenty of time for the universe & life to evolve, so this argument from incredulity is an old one. Many prominent scientists believe in emergence of chemical complexity & life is as natural to the order of things as water running downhill. Obviously consciousness emerges as life emerges & a large part of that increasing awareness would be by teeming life interacting with each other, eat or be eaten, procreation, environmental change are strong forces.

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (39637)7/27/2013 10:24:59 AM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
Christian de Duve, 95, Dies; Nobel-Winning Biochemist in may
nytimes.com



Meyer Liebowitz/The New York Times
Dr. Christian de Duve at the Rockefeller University in 1974.

By DENISE GELLENEPublished: May 6, 2013
Dr. Christian de Duve, a Belgian biochemist whose discoveries about the internal workings of cells shed light on genetic disorders like Tay-Sachs disease and helped give birth to the field of modern cell biology, earning him a Nobel Prize, died on Saturday at his home in Nethen, Belgium. He was 95.

The cause was euthanasia, which is legal in Belgium, and which was administered by two doctors at Dr. de Duve’s request, said his son Thierry, who lives in Los Angeles.

Dr. Günter Blobel, a colleague of Dr. de Duve’s at the Rockefeller University in Manhattan, said Dr. de Duve had been “suffering from a number of health problems,” including cancer, and decided to end his life after falling a few weeks ago.

“He wanted to make the decision while he was still able to do it and not be a burden,” Dr. Blobel said.

Beginning in the late 1940s, Dr. de Duve used a centrifuge and other techniques to separate and examine the components of cells. He discovered the lysosome, a tiny sack filled with enzymes that functions like a garbage disposal, destroying bacteria or parts of the cell that are old or worn out.

His discoveries helped unravel the biology of Tay-Sachs disease and more than two dozen other genetic diseases in which a shortage of lysosomal enzymes causes waste to accumulate in cells and eventually destroy them. In Tay-Sachs, a buildup of fatty substances in the brain and other tissues leads to blindness, paralysis, mental retardation and death.

“We are sick because our cells are sick,” Dr. de Duve said.

After learning he had been awarded a Nobel, Dr. de Duve said that although his discoveries had brought great intellectual satisfaction, his goal was to use them to conquer disease. “It’s now time to give mankind some practical benefit,” he said.

Dr. de Duve shared the 1974 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine with Dr. Albert Claude, who first used centrifugal techniques to glance inside cells, and Dr. George E. Palade, who pioneered using the electron microscope to better understand cell structures. Dr. Claude died in 1983; Dr. Palade died in 2008.

Before the scientists embarked on their research, the cell was perceived as a work basket containing indeterminate parts. The scientists, working separately, transformed that view with discoveries of important cell components.

Dr. Claude discovered mitochondria, which store energy, and Dr. Palade discovered ribosomes, the protein factories within cells. The Karolinska Institute, in awarding the Nobel, credited the three scientists as having founded the field of modern cell biology.

Christian René de Duve was born on Oct. 2, 1917, in Thames Ditton, England, near London. His parents were Belgians who had fled to England during World War I. When the war ended, his family returned to Belgium and settled in Antwerp. Dr. de Duve received his medical degree from the Catholic University of Louvain in 1941.

During World War II he was a medic in the Belgian Army. After German forces captured his unit in France, he managed to escape and made his way back to Belgium.

Dr. de Duve soon resumed his medical training at the Catholic University of Louvain’s Cancer Institute while pursuing graduate studies in chemistry. He wrote a book on insulin, the subject of his thesis. He received his doctorate in chemistry in 1945.

Intent on a career in research, he set off for labs in Sweden and the United States to study biochemistry. Over the next two years, he studied under Hugo Theorell at the Medical Nobel Institute in Stockholm and Carl Cori and Gerty Cori at Washington University in St. Louis, all of whom would later receive Nobel Prizes. Dr. de Duve returned to the Catholic University of Louvain in 1947 to teach physiological chemistry. He became a full professor in 1951.

His research continued to focus on insulin, a hormone involved in the regulation of blood sugar. Working with liver cells, he used Dr. Claude’s recently developed centrifugal techniques to separate cell parts. Centrifuges are spinning devices that speed up the rate at which particles settle in liquid. Dr. Claude’s technique called for using a pestle to break open cells before placing them in the centrifuge.

In one experiment, Dr. de Duve noticed that acid phosphatase, an enzyme he had included as a control, was less active than in earlier experiments in which he had used an electric blender instead of a pestle to break up cells. He was intrigued and pursued his chance finding.

“My curiosity got the better of me,” he wrote in his Nobel autobiography, “and as a result, I never elucidated the mechanism of action of insulin.”

In further experiments, Dr. de Duve found that the enzyme was contained in some sort of membrane; cells broken up in the blender released more of the enzyme because the membrane suffered greater damage. Because the enzyme was so acidic, he concluded that its only purpose could be digestion. He called the membrane lysosome, and later identified it in pictures taken with an electron microscope.

After the discovery, other researchers went on to identify more than 50 lysosomal enzymes and some genetic diseases that result when an enzyme either is absent or does not function properly. Today, some of these conditions, like Pompe disease, which causes sugar to accumulate in the liver and other organs, are treated with drugs that supply the needed enzyme. Other illnesses, like Tay-Sachs disease, have no effective treatments.

Dr. de Duve became a professor at the Rockefeller University in 1962 and began splitting his time between his laboratories there and at Louvain. In 1974, he founded the International Institute of Cellular and Molecular Pathology in Brussels.

He became emeritus professor at the Catholic University of Louvain in 1985 and at Rockefeller in 1988. He retired as president of the pathology institute in 1991.

In his later years he applied his knowledge of biochemistry to the study of the origins of life. He wrote several books, including “A Guided Tour of the Living Cell” (1984), and “Genetics of Original Sin: The Impact of Natural Selection on the Future of Humanity” (2012).

Besides his son Thierry, survivors include another son, Alain; two daughters, Anne and Françoise; two brothers, Pierre and Daniel; seven grandchildren; and two great-grandsons. His wife, Janine, died five years ago.

Dr. de Duve spent his last month writing letters telling friends and colleagues of his decision to end his life. In an interview with the Belgian newspaper Le Soir, published after his death, he said he had put off his death until his four children could be with him.

In the interview, he said he was at peace with his decision.

“It would be an exaggeration to say I’m not afraid of death,” he said, “but I’m not afraid of what comes after, because I’m not a believer.”



To: Brumar89 who wrote (39637)7/27/2013 10:45:11 AM
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"This internal logic isn't God, Nagel is careful to say, it is not to be found in religion". This is not new, highly regarded scientists have made similar arguments, biochemistry is wired into the universe. The self-made cell emerges from geochemistry as inevitably as basalt or granite."

The odd thing is there actually are scientists—respected ones, Nobel Prize-winning ones—who are saying exactly what Nagel said, and have been saying it for decades. Strangely enough, Nagel doesn't mention them. Yet some scientists think that increases in complexity also happen "actively," that is, driven by physical laws that directly favor increases in complexity.

1). "Life is almost bound to arise, in a molecular form not very different from its form on Earth," wrote Christian de Duve, a Nobel laureate in physiology or medicine, in 1995.

2)Robert Hazen, a mineralogist and biogeologist at the Carnegie Institution for Science, struck a similar note in 2007: "With autotrophy, biochemistry is wired into the universe. The self-made cell emerges from geochemistry as inevitably as basalt or granite."

3)Harold J. Morowitz, a biophysicist at George Mason University, argued that evolution has an arrow built into it: "We start with observations, and if the evolving cosmos has an observed direction, rejecting that view is clearly nonempirical. There need not necessarily be a knowable end point, but there may be an arrow."

Nagel discusses none of that work. He asserts only that evolution is directional, without making a case for it. That has left him open to a number of obvious rebuttals.

4)The biologist H. Allen Orr, at the University of Rochester, pointed out that some species become less complex—parasites, for example, after learning how to steal resources from their hosts. And many species, such as sharks, have been happy to stay just the way they are for millions of years. Only one species—us—has bothered to reach sentience. "The point is," Orr wrote in The New York Review of Books, "that if nature has goals, it certainly seems to have many and consciousness would appear to be fairly far down on the list."

Indeed, biologists usually argue that when you do get progress, it came about by accident.

When you have millions of species taking random walks through the wilds of genetic variation and natural selection, some will, by the luck of the draw, become more complex and more capable. That is, when there is an overall increase in variance, some of the variants will be more complex and capable than their ancestors. Biologists say that such ascents in complexity happen "passively."

Yet some scientists think that increases in complexity also happen "actively," that is, driven by physical laws that directly favor increases in complexity. As a group, these scientists have no sympathy for intelligent design. However, they do see reasons to think that seen as a whole, life does go from simple to complex, from instinctual to intellectual. And they are asking if there are fundamental laws of nature that make it happen.

4) Perhaps the best known of these scientists is Stuart Kauffman, of the Santa Fe Institute, who argues that the universe gives us "order for free." Kauffman has spent decades on origin-of-life research, aiming to show that the transition from chemistry to metabolism is as inevitable as a ball rolling down a slope. Molecules on the early earth, he suggests, inevitably began to catalyze themselves in self-sustaining reactions ("autocatalytic networks"), converting energy and raw materials into increasingly complex structures that eventually crossed the boundary between nonliving and living. Nagel mentions his work once, briefly, in a footnote.

Kauffman has plenty of company.

5) The paleontologist Simon Conway Morris, at the University of Cambridge, has argued that natural structures such as eyes, neurons, brains, and hands are so beneficial that they will get invented over and over again. They are, in effect, attractors in an abstract biological space that pull life in their direction. Contingency and catastrophe will delay them but cannot stop them. Conway Morris sees this as evidence that not only life but human life, and humanlike minds, will emerge naturally from the cosmos: "If we humans had not evolved, then something more or less identical would have emerged sooner or later."

Other biologists are proposing laws that would explain evolutionary ascent in fundamental terms.

6) Daniel McShea and Robert Brandon, a biologist and a philosopher of science, respectively, at Duke University, have argued for what they call a "zero-force evolutionary law," which posits that diversity and complexity will necessarily increase even without environmental change. The chemist Addy Pross, at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, in Israel, argues that life exhibits "dynamic kinetic stability," in which self-replicating systems become more stable through becoming more complex—and are therefore inherently driven to do so.

Still other scientists have asked how we could measure increases in complexity without being biased by our human-centric perspective.

7) Robert Hazen, working with the Nobel Prize winner Jack Szostak, has proposed a metric he calls "functional information," which measures the number of functions and relationships an organism has relative to its environment.

8) The Harvard astrophysicist Eric Chaisson has proposed measuring a quantity that he calls "energy-rate density": how much energy flows through one gram of a system per second. He argues that when he plots energy-rate density against the emergence of new species, the clear result is an overall increase in complexity over time.

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While the jury is most definitely out on whether these proposed laws and measures are right or wrong (and if right, whether they are profound or trivial), this is a body of work that Nagel could have drawn upon in making his argument. He apparently felt it was acceptable to ignore the science. "Philosophy cannot generate such explanations," he wrote; "it can only point out the gaping lack of them." But there is no gaping lack of attempts to supply them. "He's done so little serious homework," says Michael Ruse. "He just dismisses origin-of-life studies without any indication that he's done any work on it whatsoever."

In short, Mind and Cosmos is not only negative but underpowered, as if Nagel had brought a knife to a shootout. (He declines to comment, telling me by e-mail, "I have a longstanding aversion to interviews.")

But Nagel's goal was valid: to point out that fundamental questions of origins, evolution, and intelligence remain unanswered, and to question whether current ways of thinking are up to the task. A really good book on this subject would need to be both scientific and philosophical: scientific to show what is known, philosophical to show how to go beyond what is known. (A better term might be "metascientific," that is, talking about the science and about how to make new sciences.)

The pieces of this book are scattered about the landscape, in a thousand scraps of ideas from biologists, physicists, physicians, chemists, mathematicians, journalists, public intellectuals, and philosophers. But no book has yet emerged that is mighty enough to shove aside the current order, persuading scientists and nonscientists alike, sparking new experiments, changing syllabi, rejiggering budget priorities, spawning new departments, and changing human language and ways of thought forever. On the Origin of Species did it in 1859. We await the next Darwin.

chronicle.com



To: Brumar89 who wrote (39637)7/27/2013 9:25:02 PM
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Why I Desperately Want Evolution To Be True.”

Smack down!!!!