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To: John Vosilla who wrote (135338)	8/1/2013 9:48:01 AM
From: one_less	2 Recommendations Recommended By ChinuSFO John Vosilla Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 149317

So what is more critical to a childs upbringing? Parents and role models or a better school system in the formative years? There is absolutely no question about this. A child can succeed in the worst of schools if they have great parenting and role modeling. And a child can fail miserably in the best of schools without good parenting and role modeling. We should still do everything we can to provide good school systems and their are hero teachers in the world who perform near miracles. However, if it is a question of which is critical, the answer is definitely the significant adults in the home life of the student. They almost always make the difference, one way or the other.

To: John Vosilla who wrote (135338)	8/1/2013 12:35:20 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

I came from that environment and was a teacher. If the kids have a family that understands education they will usually be fine. If they don't have that, then the society needs to fill that void. The most effective way to do that is free pre school with meals for every kid in the country. The next best thing are free, with no academic requirements for entrance, community colleges. I saw so many kids, 100's, 1000,'s, saved by the community colleges in the SF Bay area. Most of the kids in Richmond graduated from high school with C's and D's as education was not really understood and many had to work to get what they wanted like a car. But as they got older and could think better many went back to the community college. Especially the middle class kids from working families. And in California if one got a 2.5 average in community college they could transfer to any state college for an advanced degree. I worked in a paper bag factory for two years after high school before going to college. I never understood my full academic ability until I finished my masters degree. It is what saved me and many of my friends. My cousin, whose parents did not even want him to go to college, they wanted him to go to work, went on to get a PHD in entomology. His sister got pregnant at 15, but later went on and got a masters in nursing and became a county Superviser. Two gang bangers went on to UC Berkeley and I think got degrees in accounting? Accounting-lol? I could tell you a hundred stories just like that. All saved by our community college. When I started college I knew little, and I had a huge break when a highly educated kid moved in next to me and was a mentor to me as a child. God only knows if I would have made it out without him, or if I had been a minority? Build it and they will come.