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To: neolib who wrote (229250)	8/13/2013 8:59:49 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542131

I don't know what emergency rooms you've been to where welfare moms are there with kids who have a cold. I taught poor students, and their parents never took them to the doctor. One of them had had their foot run over, by the family car, and the parents just let it heal. Badly, as it turned out. Another girl said her sister had been poked in the eye and it kind of changed color, but after a while it was ok... yikes I could go on and on with these stories. I suspect your ideas wrt welfare moms is pure crap. But if you can find some statistic on these visits, I'd be happy to look at them. My experience being in emergency rooms, and my experience with my students, does not support your hypothesis at all. On top of this, your idea about self diagnosing only works with literate people who can sort good information from bad on the web. I'd rather the system shelled out a few bucks and took a look at someone injured the way your were, as most people do not have the ability to diagnose and treat themselves using the web. You really shouldn't want those welfare moms, who are probably uneducated, and who no doubt have low reading levels, diagnosing their own kids- because it's so difficult to do anything about injuries and illnesses left untreated. What is happening right now is that many of our nations children are NOT getting the treatment they need, and so, often, relatively small injuries become intractable, or much more expensive, due to neglect.

To: neolib who wrote (229250)	8/13/2013 11:19:52 PM
From: Alex MG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542131

But if you go to any ER, you'll find it plugged up with welfare mom's taking there kids there with a cold. They aren't paying a dime of course, and they shouldn't be there anyway wow... so you are a constant visitor of ER rooms?... are you doing some kind of study on the subject?... or do you just like to listen to yourself pontificate with your holier than thou rants? "neolib"... just another label for libertarian? yes, it's a shame we have such a f'd up health care system... progressives have been pushing for universal care since Teddy R... but r wingers and libertarians have constantly fought it ironic how you parrot the "welfare mom" meme that was started by Reagan as racist codeword and at the same time it was Raygun who is responsible for our emergency rooms being our "healthcare system"... he enacted that law... even George Bush, and Mitt RMoney parroted the phrase that "everyone has healthcare, just go to an emergency room" at least Obama and Pelosi finally got something started in the right direction and btw, it was your boy Joe Lieberman who kamikaze/filibustered the public option that was on the table..