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To: neolib who wrote (229384)	8/14/2013 3:42:23 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 542251

" I much prefer a kinder, gentler world, but I also acknowledge that all the beauty I see in the ecosystem is the result of a very long history of pain. That is a much more interesting philosophical question than most the questions which philosophers occupy themselves with..." I think philosophers who deal with utilitarianism often tackle this question, but those philosophers are also often hated :-)

To: neolib who wrote (229384)	8/14/2013 6:41:36 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 542251

That post has a lot in it. Interesting insights. On #2 , liberals have to wrestle with ethics. There is no ethics in Darwinism, or the biological world, because ethics belongs in the world of consciousness. A difficult concept for right wingers. "What I find hugely ironic is that much of fundamentalist America viscerally hates biological "Darwinism" (i.e. evolution) but they cherish economic "Darwinism" (i.e. lassie fair economics). The flip side is also ironic, in that liberals accept biological evolution, but largely seek to eliminate its effects within our species. Its not actually a laughing matter. I much prefer a kinder, gentler world, but I also acknowledge that all the beauty I see in the ecosystem is the result of a very long history of pain. That is a much more interesting philosophical question than most the questions which philosophers occupy themselves with...