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To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (51025)8/17/2013 11:26:41 AM
From: FJB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
RE:We will need every energy source available to us going into the future.

1 billion smartphones will ship in 2013 heading toward to 2 billion annually in several years.

They weigh less than five ounces, but according to recent data, when you count everything that matters, the average iPhone consumed more energy last year than a medium-sized refrigerator.By the numbers, a refrigerator from the Environmental Protection Agency’s Energy Star ratings list uses about 322 kWh per year. In contrast, the average iPhone used 361 kWh of electricity when you add up its wireless connections, data usage, and battery charging. Considering that a smart phone represents just one device in the ocean of the world’s Information-Communications-Technologies (ICT) ecosystem, it seems superfluous to say that the digital economy is poised to consume massive amounts of energy.

thebreakthrough.org



To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (51025)8/19/2013 2:55:43 AM
From: RMF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
Jorj......I kinda believe in the whole CO2 thing.

So, when you get into the whole coal thing I'm wondering if it's better to protect the coal industry or should we try to protect the future of the planet.

The U.S. is moving away from coal anyway so I don't think what happens here is going to be that big a factor. China and other new economies are going to be the BIG contributors to CO2 in the future so I don't think U.S. policy is going to make much difference.

I DO think though that if you are going to go after an industry like the coal industry you should make it a special point to HELP any dislocated workers in that industry.