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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (5334)	10/4/2013 5:13:33 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

Martin Luther was a racist and condoned murdering Christians. Just another example of men elevating men rather than holding Christ the head in absolute reverence.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (5334)	10/17/2013 1:47:48 AM
From: Cyprian	Respond to of 5569

>> The Apostles under the leadership of the Holy Spirit had decided to use the Septuagint version of the Old Testament instead of the Hebrew because the majority of Jews in that day spoke and read Greek and not Hebrew. This is not entirely accurate. While the translation of the Seventy, i.e. the Septuagint, was used extensively by the Apostles and holy fathers of the Church, and it is a venerable translation, it was never exclusively so. There are certain instances in the New Testament where the Apostles quote from the Hebrew, and the quotations are not found in the Septuagint. The Holy Apostles and fathers of the Church never designated one specific text or translation as the official text to be used. Neither did the Apostles use Greek exclusively either. The Gospel of Matthew was originally written in Hebrew, not Greek, and then translated. Eusebius of Caesarea: The Ecclesiastical History Among the four Gospels, which are the only indisputable ones in the Church of God under heaven, I have learned by tradition that the first was written by Matthew, who was once a publican, but afterwards an apostle of Jesus Christ, and it was prepared for the converts from Judaism, and published in the Hebrew language.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (5334)	10/17/2013 2:14:12 AM
From: Cyprian	Respond to of 5569

>> The Septuagint became the Christian version of the Bible ... I presume you mean the Christian version of the Old Testament. The Septuagint was a translation of Old Testament books prior to the incarnation of Christ, and did not include the New Testament, which had not yet been written. Even with this clarification, it is not as black and white as you would have us believe. For instance, St. Jerome tells us that no one in the churches made use of the Septuagint version of Daniel, but rather Theodotion's version. Theodotion was a judaizing heretic. St. Jerome - Prologue to Commentary on Daniel: I also wish to emphasize to the reader the fact that it was not according to the Septuagint version but according to the version of Theodotion himself that the churches publicly read Daniel. And Theodotion, at any rate, was an unbeliever subsequent to the advent of Christ, although some assert that he was an Ebionite, which is another variety of Jew. But even Origen in his Vulgate edition (of the Greek Old Testament) placed asterisks around the work of Theodotion, indicating that the material added was missing (in the Septuagint), whereas on the other hand he prefixed obeli (i.e., diacritical marks) to some of the verses, distinguishing thereby whatever was additional material (not contained in the Hebrew). And since all the churches of Christ, whether belonging to the Greek-speaking territory or the Latin, the Syrian or the Egyptian, publicly read this edition with its asterisks and obeli, let the hostile-minded not begrudge my labor, because I wanted our (Latin-speaking) people to have what the Greek-speaking peoples habitually read publicly in the regions of Aquila and Symmachus. And if the Greeks do not for all their wealth of learning despise the scholarly work of Jews, why should poverty-stricken Latins look down upon a man who is a Christian? And if my product seems unsatisfactory, at least my good intentions should be recognized.