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To: epicure who wrote (233708)10/6/2013 9:16:29 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542256
 
To repeat my position on this one, both SS and Medicare are politically defensible so long as they are available to everyone without income limits. Once the latter are put in place, they become welfare programs and extremely politically vulnerable.



To: epicure who wrote (233708)10/7/2013 12:52:44 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542256
 
I'm pretty sure SS will end up being means tested, as it should be. It already is, in a fashion. If you are still working and earn over a certain amount, your SS is cut. But, if you are truly wealthy, and get "unearned" income, it's not. That should be changed.



To: epicure who wrote (233708)10/7/2013 8:27:39 AM
From: Metacomet  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542256
 
It means giving granny enough to keep her off cat food, and allow her to keep the lights on.
Well yeah

..and we are not doing that very well

I agree with John

..find it a stretch to label the entitlements, which are already meager by civilized country standards, and Obamacare, ie national group health insurance as "wealth transfers"

Guess my image of wealth tends to include an accumulation element which is not present in sustenance schemes