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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (745116)10/8/2013 6:34:22 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1578012
 
>So far, you have defended the high salaries of BART workers and their demands for 7% annual pay increases with the following excuses:

>- Government gives way more protection to corporations than to unions; therefore they have to make up for it.

>- The financial sector gives themselves bonuses to make up for the recession, so unions should be allowed to as well.

No, they aren't excuses. I don't see government giving much in the way of protection to unions, but if you do, well, you are already acknowledging that perhaps corporations shouldn't get protections, but as long as they do, they're going to use them to keep workers down, and unionization is how workers get protected.

>Both are arguments designed to avoid having to defend the indefensible. You can't defend BART workers making as much as they do and demanding more, so you bring up even more indefensible comparisons.

No. I'm directly answering your points. Then you try to use an expression like "red herring" that you don't even seem to understand.

>I say government should give no protections to corporations. As for the financial sector, let them reward themselves, but not on the taxpayer dime.

This has very little to do with "the taxpayer dime." The wealthy have been fighting unions (often violently) since the 19th century. Now that (with government help), they've reduced private sector unions to almost nothing, it's time to go after the last place they're strong. And they invest hundreds of millions in trying to make people like you fixated on people who are getting much less than you and think they're making too much.

>None of this should support the view that BART workers, who are already the highest paid transit workers in the state, should get even more.

I think they can negotiate for it. It's their right.

-Z