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To: bentway who wrote (746567)	10/14/2013 12:57:01 PM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Recommended By TideGlider Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579985

>> You're free to not have health insurance, you just have to pay the fine. But, you've said you ALREADY have chosen to carry insurance, so, that's bogus. There was a time you were free not to have auto insurance. Times change. It isn't "free" when government can take your money because you choose not to buy a product that you simply do not want. That goes for car insurance, too -- the ONLY reason we have mandated car insurance today is that state legislatures are packed with lawyers and insurance agents. There was no need for it, whatsoever -- it gives insurance agents profits on the sale, and lawyers get deep pockets to sue. And the citizen gets zip for the freedom he gave up.

To: bentway who wrote (746567)	10/14/2013 2:16:55 PM
From: jlallen	2 Recommendations Recommended By Bill TideGlider Respond to of 1579985

There was a time you were free not to have auto insurance. We are not required to have auto insurance in NH...so what's the point? Comparing auto insurance and health insurance is an apples to oranges comparison...no one is forced to drive, dipshit. The ACA is a major impingement on civil liberties with no justification...any idiot can see that.

To: bentway who wrote (746567)	10/14/2013 3:39:12 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Recommended By TideGlider Respond to of 1579985

" ALREADY have chosen to carry insurance, so, that's bogus. There was a time you were free not to have auto insurance. Times change." if you are a bad driver you have to pay more for car insurance and if you have an existing condition called a REALLY BAD DRIVER you can't get car insurance. fukking moron, go play with your idiot friends on the VFC, they are more your speed

To: bentway who wrote (746567)	10/14/2013 4:47:26 PM
From: TimF	3 Recommendations Recommended By Bill one_less TideGlider Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1579985

You aren't required to buy auto insurance. In some states (a state level restriction, not a national one, which is important in constitutional terms) you are required to buy auto insurance in order to operate a car on public roads. But you aren't required to operate or own a car.

To: bentway who wrote (746567)	10/14/2013 7:12:14 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1579985

Bentway, You're free to not have health insurance, you just have to pay the fine. LOL, when I brought a car to college, I was "free" to park anywhere I felt like. I just had to pay the fine every time I got caught. Of course, after 10 tickets I was labeled a "chronic offender," which meant the campus parking patrol could tow my car after that. But then all I would have to do is pay the towing fee. In any case, the Supreme Court already resolved the insurance mandate. It's no different than a tax. But no Democrat will ever admit it, just like no Democrat will ever admit that ObamaCare actually increases health care costs overall. Tenchusatsu

To: bentway who wrote (746567)	10/15/2013 3:47:17 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie	3 Recommendations Recommended By Bill Bob TimF Respond to of 1579985

You're free to not have health insurance, you just have to pay the fine. But, you've said you ALREADY have chosen to carry insurance, so, that's bogus. There was a time you were free not to have auto insurance. Times change. Imagine the conservative equivalent to Obamacare. We'll call it Republigun. We know that violent crime is spiraling out of control from what we hear in the mainstream media every day (it's ok to ignore the true statistics, trust me). Our law enforcement agencies are seriously overworked and outgunned. They simply can't bear the burden of the responsibility and cost to protect everyone. It has been shown that criminals avoid targets who have the means to defend themselves (there has never been an NRA meeting targeted by violent criminals!!!). But there is a significant segment of the population that cannot afford firearms. And since there is no argument that bearing arms is a right of the people, it is the government's obligation to make sure that everyone has adequate firearms and ammunition. The Republigun bill, also officially known as the Affordable Defense Act, provides the means where all residents of the United States, citizens and non citizens, regardless of income level, are able to acquire necessary firearms. If you are currently purchasing one firearm a year, you will not be required to change dealers, brands or models of firearms. However, if you are currently firearm deprived the government will provide you with a couple of firearm options which you can buy at the special government sponsored marked up rates. Since we want our population to have the latest technological innovations in firearms in which to combat crime and tyrannical governments, all adults will be required to purchase a new gun every year. Now, we understand that some people don't want to purchase firearms. They may feel that the fact that all of their neighbors have firearms provides a certain level of protection in itself. But is this really fair to let others bear the cost of their defense? I think not!! However, we also understand an individual's right to not bear arms. If you choose to exercise the right to not bear arms, you are free to do so, all you have to do is pay the $2000 fine per year. Do you consider this an example of the freedom to not bear arms? Do you want to live in a society where Republicans can dictate that you buy goods and/or services that you don't want? Democrats are setting the precedent. They are giving the government the power to do this whether it is a democrat or republican controlled congress and president. Democrats are not going to be in control forever. Do you really want Republicans to have this kind of power over you?