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To: Copeland who wrote (543576)	10/17/2013 7:32:59 PM
From: skinowski	Respond to of 793638

Agree 100% with what you are saying, but - according to my (admittedly) anecdotal data, in the past 20 - 25 years the price of an ER visit increased some 10 to 20 times over. Back then we had the same laws, and the same degree of overuse of ERs. So, something else is playing, of which predatory pricing is only one part. IMHO, this is very wrong, because we do need hospitals and we do need ERs. A person shouldn't have to choose between making a down payment on a house, and getting checked out in a hospital ER. Until such issues can be brought to daylight, NO reform will make any sense, since we don't even know what the heck it is that we are reforming.

To: Copeland who wrote (543576)	10/18/2013 2:02:10 AM
From: Neeka	1 Recommendation Recommended By KLP Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 793638

I just had a thought. An undocumented women comes into an emergency room because she's in labor and is about to deliver, but because she is not an American citizen, she has no insurance. What are hospitals going to do when people come in for treatment, but have no insurance?

To: Copeland who wrote (543576)	10/18/2013 3:41:47 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793638

If you are having a heart attack or something else similar, you sure as heck don't want to stop and wait for a 3rd degree of questions, and a checkbook before you have had any attention...Life and death issues sometimes are dependent on a time factor. And, usually, IF you have insurance, you know ahead of time if you will have to pay a co pay to the insurance plan....they will receive the bill, and if it is part of the contract you have with the insurance co, you will have to pay them or the hospital the co-pay.... The problem really is for people with NO insurance, not even Medicaid....That's what Obama's plan was supposed to fix....but there are so many holes in it, how would anyone know how to even get ahold of people without insurance .....