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To: Sdgla who wrote (281067)	11/12/2013 3:37:05 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

If they sell out their principles to "rationality," they will lose the last bit of respect left for them. One can be rational in as much as it is tactical. But you cannot rationalize being something that you are not. So fighting off the Obamacare after the Supreme Court had upheld it and it had won the votes was stupid and irrational. But if Tea Party ever loosens its stance or stops fighting for what they believe in because it is not expedient, then they are done. Tea Party was an angry reaction to a large extent to hand outs to the bankers. That was a valid point. But then the movement was hijacked by those who feared where a principled stance like that can lead. They created petty distractions that on the whole made Tea Partyers seem like fringe rabied right wingers (at least to the outsiders) rather than capitalizing on the legitimate points movement had. Finally, we need at least a third party and I'd say we should probably have 5 national parties so people can have adequate choices. There are serious structural problems with the US political system that will not allow that. But I will pick that up in my post to Carl. ST PS The point of the article links I posted to you was that if you are willing to be a pragmatic libertarian, then there are a lot of good things that can come to the society. But of course that creates cognitive dissonance for the ideologues :-/

To: Sdgla who wrote (281067)	11/13/2013 3:34:13 PM
From: Alex MG	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

one of your Teabagger leaders.... dumb as a bag of hammers Gohmert isn’t sure if Obamacare’s ‘secret security force’ will use weapons or syringes rawstory.com Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) recently repeated a debunked conspiracy theory that President Barack Obama was deploying a “secret security force” as part of the health care reform law, but he wasn’t sure if they were being trained with weapons or syringes. In a Friday interview, Christian radio host Janet Mefferd told the Texas congressman that the evidence of President Barack Obama creating a civilian security force and hoarding ammunition was adding up. Gohmert agreed that “Obamacare wasn’t just about health care” and pointed to a section of the Affordable Care Act that created the Ready Reserve Corps to “assist full-time Commissioned Corps personnel to meet both routine public health and emergency response missions.” While FactCheck.org has debunked conspiracy theories that claimed the health care law gave “Obama a Nazi-like ‘private army’ of 6,000 people,” Gohmert still believed there could be evil lurking behind the Ready Reserve Corps. Derp der derp