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To: epicure who wrote (238391)11/21/2013 3:57:35 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542059
 
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Great. It still doesn't mean a plumber needs to waste his time in college to please you or anyone else.>>

I just find that statement incredulous for a teacher. Waste their time in college? When is learning and developing the mind ever a waste of time? College helps everyone to think better.

Both of my daughters were pretty well educated before they went to college and I asked them if college changed them. They both said it made them different people. Same with me. I entered not knowing what the word society or rhetoric meant and left an existentialist. Pretty big change for a street kid.

I have had three generations of plumbers work for me. All good friends. The dad and granddad did not go to college, but they sent both kids.

The girl is a PA and the boy got his degree in biology, but is back to being a plumber. They make a lot fo money. I doubt very much he thinks his college was a waste of time.

I hung with the Jews while in college. Most I knew hated college as they had to work so hard to get A's. But you know what? They all live their lives today using what they learned and they continue to learn, as once a person hits critical mass in learning they usually keep it up.

The point about calculus is that is a crazy way, IMO, to weed out students. It means you are not going to allow all the great minds in that cannot, or have not done calculus. It makes no sense to figure people who can do calculus are more worthy of an education at Berkeley than those who cannot.