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To: carranza2 who wrote (103885)12/3/2013 7:48:06 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219403
 
That, c2, is cogent, and I believe spot-on.
Situation impossible to predict going forward, because too many actors playing parts, and because plans do not all the time work out.
Nuclear stuff and unpredictability should not go together.

Spent the day working in hotel room, did a walk-about w/ colleagues of the mines, did hotpot lunch, napped, and worked some more. Now am in hotel coffee shop, ordered a burger and downing a watermelon juice, 8:42pm, not characteristic as I usually eat at 6:00pm.

The conference starts tomorrow but at cocktail time. Am here early just to have a change of pace, and much of what I need to do are on my computer as opposed to do w/ in-person meetings.

After I get back the gentle slide towards year-end starts.

Wonderful January is that the Chinese lunar new year holiday is at the end of January, and so we would not really rev up for hectic schedule until second week of February, allowing time to reflect, hold discourse, and chart considered course.

Cheers, tj



To: carranza2 who wrote (103885)12/3/2013 10:07:07 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219403
 
Decades ago, I read a book, before I knew much of anything other than all the Donald Duck and various war comics, called The Arabian Nights or 1001 Nights, which Wikipedia describes here: en.wikipedia.org While I don't recall much about it, everything that has happened since in the Arabian zone has been in keeping, so I guess it was near enough for government work to set the tone for how the place works. <Very few are competent to discuss Iran, Syria, Hizbollah, Iraq and Israel. I don't claim to be, but I read an incredible amount of very bad writing about these issues on these boards, especially the ideologically pure ones. On both sides> You might like to get an english translation and try it out. Translations of things are normally [I suppose, according to those who know] not as good as the originals as language is so solipsistic that it can't really be translated. In fact it can barely be read other than as a loose interpretation of what was going on in the writer's mind, but at least in the original it's what they actually wrote.

The main thing I remember is the shifting allegiances and something about a scimitar.

I don't know many Iranians, or Iraqis and others of the area, but did stay in a dormitory with an Iranian maths professor at Kyoto Youth Hostel quarter of a century ago with our then 13 year old son who was interested in Japan and was studying the language at high school. He was there for a mathematics conference of some sort. He was a very pleasant and gentle man, in fact reminiscent of the leaders of Iran now that I think of it [not Amendiejihad].

In an adjacent room there was a group of young American males who were foul-mouthed, disgusting, loud and obnoxious barbarians. One of them had apparently spewed down the wall the night before. They laughed about the shoes off inside rule and didn't bother with that. Said maths professor quietly said "It's not right". In a face-off between Iran and the USA, it's not a clear thing that Virtuous Victorian Values are most represented by the USA and certainly was not the case if we judged on their respective merits that day and 1 night of thousands of nights. There was not a stoning to death at the youth hostel, nor a bayoneting in Nanking by the hostel staff, so in a broader view, one could take a different perspective.

It was embarrassing to even be an Anglophone but at least we were not Americans. In Japan's one year family to family student exchange with which we got involved, the school did not even take American students as they were normally too problematics, while Canadians, English, Oz and Kiwi were good to have, if they could cope with culture shock.

Incidentally, any Americans with blue eyes are directly descended from Arabians, which is where the blue eyes gene pool originated, before they migrated to northern Europe and dispersed around the world from there.

Regarding Israel, which was closed for business during The Arabian Nights, I know a few Jews. Irwin Jacobs and Andrew Viterbi for example and some here in person. In fact one was visiting our house last week having been in Israel and Spain for a few months with his wife and 3 children while working on Russian wifi deals and something or other. The Peretz family went to live in Israel when I was about 13 or so, so I guess Israel is like the Peretz family and the others I know, writ large. That would be a very good place with VVV galore, even though Jews apparently favour Democrats [Bill Clinton and Al Gore awarded Irwin Jacobs a presidential honour and Bill Clinton visited him in La Jolla]. Nobody is perfect it seems. Even God's chosen people, though maybe that's a mistranslation as it seems a bit "Aryan Master Race" in style, though the Ashkenazis could reasonably make that claim given their vast achievements.

So there you are, Israel, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon etc in a nutshell. I met a few Iraqi men in London this year who were "freedom fighters", presumably of Christian style as they were at a Christian church cafe and lived in the church property. Their description of the situation in Iraq was interesting. I would not want to have to make decisions about what to do as they had to do while living there. Fight or flight - they chose both at different times.

What a mess of alpha male genocidal territorial kleptocratic totalitarian tribal dominance hierarchies.

Basically chimps in pants. Though the Iranian maths professor seemed very reasonable.

Of course Iran does want atomic bombs to destroy Israel, as I have proven [see pipeline to India argument]. and as they say they want to do [destroy Israel]. It's as well to take them at their word.

Mqurice