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To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (757671)

12/14/2013 5:29:03 AM

From: koan

Read Replies (9) | Respond to of 1574854

Time and again I get disappointed when I try to discuss an issue with a Republican in a civilized manner because they almost always get defensive and abusive. I always wonder, why if they cannot defend their position don't they just change their position? Human condition I guess. But I will try with you.

First I am an old guy, so I have seen a lot. 72. Let me answer your questions one by one. These are my perceptions and ideas, so not meant as an attack. Just my opinion.

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<<I'm not going to go back to McCain but I think Romney could have been really good for this country. Personally I think he was the right person for the job at the right time.>>

Need I remind you, McCain picked Palin (terrible judgment). She is not capable of being a safe president. She is ignorant at the level of about a high school girl (I taught high school for a while), and she is mean and shallow. He has had cancer several times and had he died!?

The primary problem in the country today is that the very rich plutocrats have control of the country. That is why we are 65th in the world in income inequality. He would have helped them gain even more control over the rest of us. Because he is an elitist who feel the business community should be running the country.

Romney knows nothing of social science and cares nothing about the average person. He is a rich patriarch who would run the country like the Mormon church. Most of us don't share those values.

<<Clinton's budget was on track to pay the deficit off by 2012!>>

Deficit or national debt? >>

Call it what you want, and that is an old trick (no tricks, OK)?). It was so much money GW said: the government shouldn't have so much money and was the reason he was giving it back to his rich friends through three tax cuts to the rich. And he said the rich, as he said they paid most of it. So whatever debt you want to count, Bush felt we had too much money. TOO MUCH money, so he was giving it back. Those are easily verified facts.

<<Then he started two stupid wars and he doubled the deficit from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.>>

<<Then he started two stupid wars >>

My memory isn't what it used to be but I seem to recall he was sitting in a classroom when we were attacked.>>

We were attacked by 19 crazy people, not Afghanistan or Iraq.

Bush attacked two countries that did not attack us. What 9/11 required was a swift police action like what the Israeli's would have done. Go in kill Osama and as many Al Qaeda and get out. Kill the people who attacked us, not a tens of thousands of people who had nothing to do with it. He also displaced millions and destroyed the balance of power in the mid east.

He didn't even have enough sense to confer with his dad when he went in and knew nothing about Shia and Sunni cultures. Sort of important.

Sure they were training in Afghanistan, so there is an argument for that one, but Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 at all. Bush used 9/11 to attack Iraq which he did hoping to steal the oil. Didn't work out. He made that whole case up against Iraq.

<<Cheney went so far as to quote Raygun: "deficits don't matter.">>

Deficit or national debt? I'm sensing a trend>>

As mentioned, doesn't matter. Bush said we had too much money. Instead of tax cuts to the rich maybe he should have taken that money and paid it to whatever debt you are worried about?

<<Lets figure out that little deficit vs. debt issue before we proclaim "facts" dood <g>>>

The top economists are not worried about it. The Debt to GDP ratio has been falling like a rock. Guess you didn't notice. And again: "Bush said we had too much money" The tax cuts increased the debt as much as those two wars!