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To: JohnM who wrote (239907)	12/15/2013 2:22:00 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542139

The problem with Carter was his personality as a leader. What kind of a leader urges you to turn the heat down and dress like an eskimo in the winter to reduce our energy independence? Goes on TV and tells Americans our special time in the sun, when we had the only intact industrial base following WWII was over, and we'd all just have to get used to less? Combine that with "Day xxx of the Iranian hostage crisis" and Carter just seemed like a weak, pathetic loser. It may have all been true, but America and I didn't want to hear it from my president. I didn't vote in the Reagan/Carter election, the only one I've sat out. Until W, I regarded him as the worst president of my lifetime.

To: JohnM who wrote (239907)	12/15/2013 10:10:11 AM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542139

<<<< But the points Sam and I are making have to do with policy preferences. We prefer different outcomes that Reagan worked on. Carter was much closer to my view, though not as close as Ted Kennedy.>>> I understand that but your support of Carter and demonizing of Reagan are just viewed through such a slanted view I can only conclude it is your ideology that clouds your view of history. The country was demoralized and staggering on just about all fronts at the end of four years of Carter. If you think that inflation at over 12% AND CLIMBING is not troublesome in the extreme you have no sense of what it does to business. Do you know what interest rates do housing for instance when it gets that high? Carter hd four years to do something and did nothing! So by doing nothing interest rates kept going up. Was it all Carters fault? Of course not - things just are never black and white like that. Reagans role was to support the fed, but he went further by sending a clear message - the rounds of higher and higher wages was over. He did that by firing the air traffic controllers. ...........I'm not a big fan of Reagan because of his debt increase. But to suggest he didn't do a lot of good things in his first term is just laughable to me. He turned the entire country around. The mood completly as did inflation and so then the economy did too. Carter when he left office 34% approval, Reagan when he left office 64% approval. People at the time - real time - agree with me.