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To: TigerPaw who wrote (44210)	12/21/2013 3:30:59 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

As expected, human mental processes are more similar to apes than to groups which separated from humans more generations ago. Well the study & appreciation of this marvelous compelling view & all the associated exquisite intuitions *are not true* , if one succeded to exclude teaching evolutionary biological science in classroom. Why be human, why be curious, why explore & attempt to expand that comprehension this long vast continuum of change & adaptation of life under a cold timeless moon & massive firey sun giant, going back to a time we all may have gazed up at once from the vantage of secure nests in some forest tree top? We were that once, some primate child clinging to our mother in some ancient forest top. Would seem an aweful waste of the mind space, but look how the process goes on undaunted, the questions are asked, the intuitions assemble around theory, the puzzel pieces fitted together because the reality is there. And it is a long continuous complex emergent reality as Einstein pointed out, and a very persistent one, as is our curiosity to fathom more.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (44210)	12/21/2013 4:31:18 AM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 69300

We are frequently told that humans, mentally, are continuous with the apes And why in the world would anyone attempt to dispute this? Especially when in the Market we see greed & fear,following the herd/pack, flocking/schooling & lemming behavior opperate, as the pretty ticker tape quote flashes? ;o) Now the associated higher branchings of linguistic studies & cognitive psychology may help us to delve deeper, more cererbral experiments combined with physiological base to attempt more refined look back on a long continuous past, understand our own brain/mind development. And the key word is "continuum", we see human experience going long ago from dark caves to ones lit by fire casting dancing shadows on walls, one million years ago. And that "fire" originally scavenged before the skill to make & control was discovered, a major game changer and was not "random". One can say that besides the wheel the next greatest tool to come along would be the anvil. The later skill of blacksmithing & shaping metal for weapons, tools that could shape & quarry stone for so many applications of buildings to aqueducts carrying water or sewage disposal channels. Every craft that emeges as humans settled down and there by necessity emerged a wide variety of specialization. That same blacksmithing applies today, for making autos, nuclear subs, F-35s, to sowing needles & machines to spin the thread & fabrics. One can see clearly before blacksmithing & control of fire to forge metals emerge, there would be 3mil yrs of flinting stone , shaping wood & stone, that transferred over naturally to that alchemy of working with metals. Pretty amazingly long continuum of experience that would charge the mind of these passed on skills for survival, those emerging linguistcal skills that would follow, embedded & emerging out of those varieties of new skill sets & discovered specializations that would have a revolutionary effect on language, how we pursue & store data to preserve that which directly relates to survival. Amazing what those 1rst mathematicans were able to do with just a stick & drawing shapes & lines in the sand, our first blackboard , visualization tool. Out of all this, using just a little imagination one sees an endless continuum that was a perpetuity of discovery, rise of language to accompany these new skillsets & record keeping that arose later. Plus the evolution of language itself, just an amzing array of emerging complexity reflecting those new specializations and could go much further to see language expand to encompass the rise of allegory & metaphor, as we start with elementals such as "light" or "fire", that become more complex associated ideas later. From Louis XIV to some youthful Pharoah, how many times have we seen the "Sun King"? ;o)

To: TigerPaw who wrote (44210)	12/21/2013 8:38:20 AM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 69300

The Law of the Sun god to Man: If you visit the Paris, Louvre a stone in the shape of an upright penis inscribed with the laws of Hammurabi which were inspired by the Sun-god. The relief sculpture at the top of the stone shows the Sun-god sitting on his throne instructing Hammurabi who stands before him. From the time immemorial anyone who has questioned the celestial source of the law was forced to practice, he was considered mad and subject of violent death. Probably the Sumerians in West Asia and/or the Egyptians in Africa had the first written language. These were followed by the Indus in South Asia, The first society that had the first written law was the CODE OF HAMMURABI created during the reign of Hammurabi, whose reign was from about 1792-1750 B.C. Regrettably what compounds this whole myth of religious myths is that no religious record of any Abrahamic religion exists from the time of the origins of the events as soundly as the earliest form of Sumerian writing that has survived through "Cuneiforms." Actually "Cuneiforms." was used by a number of later civilizations. "Cuneiform" means "wedge" and it applied to any form of writing in which something was wedged into a soft clay to create a form. The entire 'Abrahamic era' from Ur and all the stories of Isaac and Ishmael has not a single "Cuneiform" that can be attributed to attest the happenings, though Abraham supposedly appeared a thousand year after Sumerians. Why if you ask the faithful they will call you an infidel, mad, lunatic and a -astard. This creation of Gods from the study of the available 5000 year old "Cuneiforms" is as old a profession of priests as the 'other' oldest is. From stone age Gods and deities could not be questioned, whenever anyone who questioned the celestial source of the law that he was forced to practice, he was considered mad and subject of violent death. The earliest law giver Hammurabi received his laws from the Sun-god, Moses was given the Ten Commandments by Yahweh on Mount Sinai, Mohammed had the Koran dictated to him by the archangel Gabriel, Hammurabi believed himself to be an elite king chosen by the gods thousands of years before any Abrahamic prophet even emerged. Three of the World's great religions share in the wisdom, teachings and law of the Old Testament Bible. the Old Testament Bible, it is easy to see just as in the Code of Hammurabi, much of the Old Testament laws have to do with retribution, punishments, restitution, and things similar to the Code of Hammurabi. The Code of Hammurabi was clearly the basis of the Old Testament Bible. Christians, Jews and Muslims all consider the Old Testament Bible, part of their religious beliefs foundation. Christians consider the New Testament Bible even more a basic part of their beliefs. Hundreds of years after Christ, Mohammed preached a monotheistic message as had been taught by Moses and Jesus before him, these monotheistic beliefs were shared by the Jews and the Christians. Lets rewind back a little, the first great lawgivers of mankind like Hammurabi claimed that their laws expressed a divine will. Anyone who questioned the myths and the legends of Sumerians, Pharaohnic, Incas gods was considered mad and sacrificed on the altar. Sun God interestingly gave Hammurabi’s the same elements of Code that he much later gave to Moses: "If a man put out the eye of another man, his eye shall be put out. Moses received the tablets of the law from Yahweh on mount Sinai after few thousand years. Sumerian religion appear to be source of the stories in much later Middle-Eastern religions. The Sumerian religion influenced Mesopotamian legends and folklores completely, these folklores survived in the mythologies and religions of the Hurrians, Akkadians, Babylonians, Assyrians, and other culture groups.The biblical account of Noah and the flood myth resembles the Sumerian deluge myth. The Judaic underworld Sheol is very similar in description with the Sumerian and Babylonian Kigal, ruled by the goddess Ereshkigal and in the Babylonian religion, with their introduced consort, the death god Nergal. Sumerian scholar Samuel Noah Kramer noted similarities between many Sumerian and Akkadian "proverbs" and the later Hebrew proverbs, many of which are featured in the Book of Proverbs. It takes a lot of haughtiness for a man full of meagreness, scantiness and inefficiencies 24/7 carrying faecal material as an integral part of its physical composition to declare himself as the 'Sun God.' Hyperbole of our intrinsic feeble traits is the biggest imperfection of humans. Mesopotamian rulers identified themselves as the sun. Hammurabi declared: I am the sun of Babylon which causes light to rise over the land of Sumer and Akkad.Later the kings of the Assyrian Empire called themselves the sun of the whole of mankind. Our dogma: ''It is ingrained in us to be obedient and not to question, 'enquiry' is the doorway for every development and progress we have seen. Rest assure centuries from now our present current holy traditions will be looked upon by our descendants with equal amusement and shock as we read about the Gods of Pharaohs and the Sun God of Hammurabi today. In future we will be referred as upper cave age semi civilized creatures with strong cannibalistic tendencies who had Mozart and Beethoven but had Auschwitz too, we are the standard bearers of a coming civilization that shall destroy all the legends and myths of existence once for all. Alas, before that a lot of Galileo's and Socrates would be sacrificed and perished.''