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To: miraje who wrote (45478)1/3/2014 2:09:26 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
Ansett pilots did that early this century in NZ: <Today's the day where we'll see if Boeing's Machinist Union idiots vote themselves out a of job. Boeing has put up with their never ending strikes and walkout threats for far too long. With a "no" vote on the contract, they can watch the golden goose fly away to a warmer climate, as they line up for unemployment.> It was obvious they were over-reaching and indeed, the company went bust and they were all out of a job. My brother in law was a pilot for them and he refused to go along with the strike. The union goons would threaten him by parking at the end of his drive-way, walking alongside him as he walked through the airport building.

I don't know about the Boeing situation, but in general, unions seem to be low on good sense.

"They took our jobs" shows a misunderstanding of the global economy. Jobs are not owned by employees, even if the local laws say they are. Jobs are provided by customers. There is no reason why a Boeing machinist in Seattle should get any more money than a machinist in Bangalore, or Shanghai, or Jakarta. Well, there is, in that the USA could sensibly charge tariffs on imported products because India uses slaves to work in factories, or China pollutes the air which blows over the USA, or Indonesia is a Jihad land which intends to attack the USA or allies. But those tariff issues are separate from pay negotiations. They could persuade Boeing to pay more for Seattle employees than pay the tariff on low cost employees in Shanghai.

Free trade is fine, providing the other country is not loading problems onto other countries or doing evil things in their own country such as using slave labour kept prisoner in gulags. Such as in North Korea.

Mqurice



To: miraje who wrote (45478)1/3/2014 2:12:20 PM
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The Chinese icebreaker that sent a helicopter to rescue the passengers on board the Russian ship MV Akademik Shokalskiy is now stuck in Antarctic ice and might need a rescue of its own, according to the Australian Maritime Safety Authority.

An Australian icebreaker carrying the 52 passengers is waiting in open water to see if it has to go back to help the Chinese icebreaker Snow Dragon.

The trapped vessel says it will try to break free when the tide conditions change in the next few hours. The Australian icebreaker Aurora Australis is waiting around 7 miles north of the Snow Dragon as a precaution. The Australian Maritime Safety Authority says there's no immediate danger to the Snow Dragon.

Before the Aurora was asked to remain in the area, it was en route to the Australian island state of Tasmania to drop off its rescued passengers.

Andrew Peacock, a rescued passenger aboard the Aurora Australis, says he's frustrated in the change of plans.

"Frustrated because we had hoped to have some certainty regarding a plan for returning to family and loved ones after already many changes, but of course we are very aware why there is a new situation here and so can't be too upset," Peacock told ABC News in a statement. "Having to just accept the situation for what it is and find ways to stay calm about it all and keep occupied - it's a wonderful environment, a beautiful sunset over the ice right now."

abcnews.go.com