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To: Lazarus who wrote (56334)1/6/2014 1:29:37 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218477
 
Excellent post!!! We can take our signals, but we have no control over luck... so true...

GZ



To: Lazarus who wrote (56334)1/6/2014 3:18:44 PM
From: Fintas  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218477
 
First I don't see your post as being critical. I see it as being real from the perspective you have and not knowing what I am doing.when/where and how.

Few ever ask but for those I do take the time to explain.. Doesn't mean they agree or understand but I will take the moment as I am now. So where to begin. This will be LONG and hopefully I dont ramble due to losing a thought.

I put up numbers for what I expect to occur. Most forget I was one supporting the 1620 back in late 2009. The same 1620 I saw in 2007 that I expected in 2008 that as we know collapsed. However if I could see that 1620 back then and at that moment from where it had come I also understood the 1134/972/810. Did I have 667. NO. Could I see it YES.

And I hear you re the time line to the bottom. AND I never suggest any do what I DO. What I do is for ME and me only!

However I just put them up and consider ranges and then implement accordingly. If you have read carefully I have always had the spx 1458 for 2014.

I also had posted way back in early 2013 when asked as the spx was pushing up past the 1458 back then, what it would take me to change my view re spx 1350, 1270.. I responded I would have to see a 1944 and hold above for a bit. Then I presented a few times the strings to the UP as to show the UP could happen and that means I expected higher and why I stayed LONG. Most kinda get hung up on my spx 1458 or 1620 and forget I'm LONG a nice core taken back in late 2009. I'm STILL LONG!

Another fact that many miss is I could see the failure coming in 2007 and why I kicked out the Csco and leaps for such and other. I tend to kick out or buy 3% within a top or bottom.

But I could also see the 1620 coming again back in 2009 once the 972 held. Went nose to nose with Money Friend back at the time. Yet understanding the low was in is why I took the cores off their lows. When I was buying the Ge's, UPS, Cat, Jpm etc one had to have ####s of steel or understand the FA of each. GE dropped from my 9.11 to 5.87 in a hand ful of days. I never flinched. I just wished I had understood the woosh.

So what you present is CORRECT re that 1620 ish and now high it moved. Yet I expected that to be able to hold the GE to the 28. The BAC to the 16. The JPM to the 56 etc.. Remember while yakking about the down I've consistently showed strings up.. whether it be 162.108/54. It's just that most are living in their head in not mine to understand what I'm doing and NOT doing.

So too was this statement correct.:

"A couple of days after you made that post, the market did crumble about a 100 points,,,, buts its rallied about 300 from there."

Yes that's true and that was considered to allow me to act with covered calls or a put etc..Again I put up the 108 for a reason.

I also understood the first drop to 1557 was considered. I refer to such now often for I expect it to retrace. I never have stated TOMORROW. I have stayed within the realm of spx 2014 in 2014.

I sold JDSU calls when the stock was pushing 16.65. And a few I'm involved kicked out their core stock. I still hold the the newer entry taken at 9.15. Here and now I try to help those who want to take it have an idea or those who want the calls etc. Why don't I sell it again as I once did. I continue to expect JDSU to either move up on it's own or be taken over. So why worry about it.

Now if you went back far enough in 2013 someone asked me when would I give up on 1270. And I responded when I saw 1944 taken out because I could SEE 1944.. Yet even then I would still expect the 1458. NOT 1270. probably NOT 1350.. But 1405 could happen but NOT in 2014 from 1944 ish.

I'm not taking your post as being critical.

And you are very correct about luck being a part of such. TRUST me when I kicked out those csco leaps in OCT 2007 for 11.34 bought for 1.25 I did NOT think they would expire WORTHLESS in JAN 2008. I GOT LUCKY. I could see the drop. I had run the numbers I expected csco to hit i.e 34. It did and I was GONE. I'm not into greed in any direction.

The upside here has only allowed me to exploit the core longs.

It has also allowed me to continue with my LONG view re SPX down. And just as a reminder I'm 90% LONG I'm only playing with 10% for puts and even that is helped due to the many who have pushed my longs UP to allow me to selectively sell a covered call or buy a call. Few hold for 3-5-7 years.

I'm on recored re taking those BAC calls and if memory serves me there are a couple here that followed me in when ol BAC had done the 10 retraced under 7 to provide the moment to exploit.

Soon I expect BAC to roll over again: 14.58-12.50. If I expect it that means I'm positioned for it with the core. That means I've already considered the UP to see the down. That means I sold CALLS against the BAC. Now just because I say I sold calls doesn't mean I did a weekly option. Too many think in THEIR head re what strike, month etc. And you can bet there are those looking to come in BAC for the 25/35 I see LONG TERM. Long term is not this month.

So back to spx and that 1620 ish. Here and now most who are objective understand a retrace is healthy. Will it be just to 1823? Will it be to 1767? Time will tell.

How many are positioned for it? Probably not as many as they should be. So if I'm expecting spx 1458 is for 2014 and above that 1512/1557/1575 then to get there so too is 1620/1648/1660/1774. All numbers previously discussed.

. If one looks at ANY of the numbers I put up..UP or DOWN they will see them. Whether they agree is the debate. If one were to look at GZ's end of year most will see the majority were expecting 1500-1650 ish. A few were above 1700 or 1800 and only ONE I know had 1844. Again I could see it. I just didn't bet the house on it for I understand 10-15% up can easily be offset by 20 % down.

Some have asked me do I really believe spx could drop to 1458 from 1848. To which I responded take a look at what PGO did from 1916 ish to 1458 and the time frame ...OR YUP!

Hope all is well in Lazurus land. And if you want put some numbers up just so I have an idea of what you are thinking in either direction..

NOT to critique. But to listen with an open mind and consider.

Fintas



To: Lazarus who wrote (56334)1/7/2014 2:23:47 PM
From: Brian Sullivan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218477
 
I bought IBM at $185.28 on Dec 27th. It looked cheap on my stock screens and is the "Dog of the Dow" for 2014.

So far its looking very good this January.