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To: Alex MG who wrote (242001)	1/13/2014 12:28:45 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542829

Vietnam left quite the distaste of those in power who throw away the lives of grunts when they know things aren't going to work. But the lesson to learn form that is don't get into wars to start with. Its a fatal mistake to think that once you are in a war, there must somewhere be a solution you can believe in that will still let you win. The only winning in these two wars is getting out. It will be very interesting to see if Gates actually sticks his neck out and articulates what he thinks would have been a winning strategy.

To: Alex MG who wrote (242001)	1/13/2014 1:46:25 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542829

Every president that hasn't served in the military has to learn not to trust them, from bitter experience. I'm sure they're at him from day one with worst case scenario after worst case scenario, until he tells them to do whatever is necessary to keep America safe. Consider LBJ. Vietnam was supposed to be a quick, small action in a tiny country. LBJ had a huge domestic agenda, he didn't want Vietnam. His generals kept coming asking for more troops, which would win the Vietnam war. Johnson was determined not to be "the first president to lose a war", so, he kept pumping. Until he didn't, and left, horrified with what he had done.