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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (765571)	1/24/2014 2:17:16 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Recommended By joseffy Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1574091

lololol and none of them are hooked up to anything, just show. like those fake security cameras

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (765571)	1/24/2014 2:58:34 PM
From: Taro	1 Recommendation Recommended By joseffy Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574091

China has a hell of a lot more sun than Germany. At least in those Areas, where they put up their solar plants. Next... /Taro

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (765571)

1/24/2014 5:03:03 PM

From: Bilow

Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574091

Hi Wharf Rat; Re: "I'm watching what China does. They installed as much solar last year as we have in all the days since the Big Bang. China Installed a Record 12 Gigawatts of Solar in 2013";

Your basic problem is that you're just another touchie-feelie leftie that doesn't understand numbers. Like koan, you're easily convinced by misleading arguments.

As of 2006, China has 1950 Gigawatts of coal burning power plants. At your latest numbers, China will catch up with their 2006 coal plants around 150 years from now, LOL. But that won't happen because they're building more coal plants faster than anywhere else on the planet. China is industrializing with coal and you can find the numbers with the simplest of google searches.

Here's how fast China is digging up coal (most recent figures released):
Year Coal Production
(Billion short tons)

2000	1.00
2001	1.11
2002	1.42
2003	1.61
2004	2.00
2005	2.19
2006	2.38
2007	2.62
2008	2.72
2009	2.96

That's right. In 9 years their coal production tripled. But that wasn't enough. Now they're importing huge amounts of coal (mostly from Australia I suppose):

Coal in China (Mt)* [8]
Production Net import Net available

2005	2,226	-47	2,179
2008	2,761	nd	2,761
2009	2,971	114	3,085
2010	3,162	157	3,319
2011	3,576	177	3,753

With investment in the coal industry rising at an annual rate of 50 percent in recent years, China will retain its current position as the leading global consumer of coal, even as it endeavors to diversify.

During the first three quarters of 2009 China's coal consumption increased 9% from 2008 to 2.01 billion metric tons.

Result is that their carbon footprint is zooming:
Fossil Fuel-related CO2 Emissions in China, 1998–2004 (in millions of metric tons of CO2) 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004

CO2 from coal	2,363	2,287	2,339	2,472	2,518	2,731	3,809
CO2 from natural gas	47	51	57	64	69	72	83
CO2 from petroleum	531	566	636	653	686	737	816
Total CO2 from all fossil fuels	2,940	2,905	3,033	3,190	3,273	3,541	4,707
Source: DOE/ EIA [25]

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-- Carl