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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: bruwin who wrote (141912)	2/10/2014 2:55:39 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

You raised an interesting point in the post on the other thread that Metacomet referenced. You said you would never have voted for Obama "since he did not have the experience" Bill Clinton responded to that very well and I will leave it to you to reference that. I voted for him because: a. The alternative was even worse b. America always looks to the future and not the past. They look at the potential a candidate has. (whether seeking a job or political office or anything) and had a demonstrated capability considering where he was in 2008 in spite of the challenges he grew up in. c. The temperament to be President. Agree, he did not have as much of an experience to fight politics in Washington DC which is very different. I am upset at him for not having done enough for Obamacare by lobbying with the people like Clinton did for his issues. Now look at Bill Clinton and Bush Jr. Both were in office for 8 years. Clinton had his highest popularity rating in 1998, about the time he was leaving office. And today his popularity is sky high. Bush on the other hand had his lowest rating at the time he was leaving office with his highest rating being when he entered office. The American electorate is very dynamic.

To: bruwin who wrote (141912)	2/10/2014 3:07:18 PM
From: Metacomet	Respond to of 149317

So are we saying that over 59 million Americans, or just under 50% of the Americans who voted, were taken in by mindless, bigoted surrogates or by those who employed mindless, bigoted surrogates and used such for their own nefarious ends ? Of course not ..but a characteristic of any "democratic" institution is the tendency for votes to cluster around the center, and victors are determined on the margins To the extent you can influence the folks not fully commited to the central tenets of either side, you may influence outcomes by appealing to the undecideds If you have a way to capture their interest, you have a shot The fact that Americans came that close to electing a clone of the revolting character Gordon Gekko, from the movie Wall Street simply underscores how effective those tactics are ...and the black candidate contributed to that outcome not because his policies are undesirable, but simply because he was black in a racist country...a situation you have at least intimated an understanding of