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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (245528)	2/25/2014 9:41:03 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542043

Pre 1950 we had people actually starving in America. On top of that, poor women could be involuntarily committed, and their children could pretty easily be taken from them and given to other people. On top of that, we had involuntary sterilization in America...

To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (245528)	2/25/2014 10:59:44 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542043

We'll just have to disagree about it. In any event if we can't do away with welfare because of political impasse then I wish we could address, have a political debate among the parties, about a way to make welfare kids successful and break the dependency cycle. Bread, I really don't have time these days to argue this with you--other pressures in my life. But, quickly, on this score, the best way to break this cycle is to put a great deal more money into public urban and rural education, particularly, into pre-k. As I recall, you were more than skeptical that would work. Just cutting benefits does only one thing. Puts more folk in serious health dangers. Pre 1950 we didn't have welfare women women begging. One because there were so few unmarried mother's (relatively speaking in terms of percentages), and two, their families took them in--unlike today where they, the families, see it as the government's job. Don't know whether you are familiar with Michael Harrington's 1960s book on poverty which was one of the great stimuli for increased attention. One of his central points was that poverty was simply invisible to much of the country. It existed and the pain and suffering of it. Most of the country simply didn't see it.