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To: KyrosL who wrote (104864)	3/8/2014 9:09:43 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Respond to of 219194

KyrosL, the issue of what Svoboda is as a political movement is very diverse depending with whom you are speaking. From friends in Galicia and Bucovina, the party seems to be highly nationalistic e.g. no different than other similar movements and not much different than the Russian "Nashi" (http://imrussia.org/en/politics/420-the-fate-of-the-nashi-movement-where-will-the-kremlins-youth-go) movement as an example, who is strongly against human rights activists within Russia, ) but I would not define as anti-Semitic from the information I gathered from actual people I talk too and my impression may well be misleading. Of course there may be also very Svoboda outspoken and extremist individuals from which many may derive the xenophobic aspect of this political organization, but IMHO the final verdict is still out. One must fully understand the Ukrainian history from the times of Zaporozhian Cossacks, Bohdan Khmelnytsky and the first massive pogroms against the Jews within Western of today Ukraine. What is now Ukraine is a very complex social combination of various ethnic groups who where constantly in state of friction and war between the Swedish Lithuanian or Polish Kingdom or Austrian Hungarian Empire on one side the Russian on the other side and the Ottoman Empire. One of the more tumultuous period was after Ivan Grozny (a Rurik and a Varangian dynasty) rule who initiated the "Oprichniki " and the fall of the Polish Kingdom from its greatness. The Oprichnina where basically the predecessors of modern days Cheka, NKVD and KGB all nice friendly organizations to keep a stable ruling administration. If some one would go over their ideological activities murders and repressions .Svoboda will smell like a rose. As this all said I would not rule out the then Turkish Spanish or French internal "Order" organization including the Inquisition, under various pretenses as would be the Medieval European Protestant movements Czech Jan Hus and the list is way to long to bring about all those xenophobia guided and /or highly nationalistic movements. Acts on the ground are more important than plain propaganda. Some one posted horrible photographs of cruel and heinous persecution of Jews in Lviv, by Ukrainians shortly after the invasion of the German Army and SS units arrived there is no denying of those facts but unfortunate if one would have seen the attrocities committed by the member of the so called State Security forces during teh same period like the NKVD or KGB in their gulags would not see big differences they just where not well documented or all evidence totally destroyed - so we do not know. I would give the Svoboda movement the chance to prove itself as a real political movement and not arrive to unproven conclusion based on things of the past because at the time neither the Japanese, the Germans, Croatians, Serbiansd Romanians, Hungarian or Russian and the lsit is long where not any better

To: KyrosL who wrote (104864)	3/8/2014 5:10:21 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 219194

given the pig's breakfast made of libya and syria, am not confident that the ukrainian state would not fail and extremist take over yet another country's revenue, that which can buy the equipment they wish for and ... reuters.com Libya threatens to bomb North Korean tanker if it ships oil from rebel port Credit: Reuters/Esam Omran Al-Fetori The entrance to Zueitina oil terminal is seen in Zueitina, about 120 km (75 miles) west of Benghazi July 18, 2013. Credit: Reuters/Esam Omran Al-Fetori (Reuters) - Libya threatened on Saturday to bomb a North Korean-flagged tanker if it tried to ship oil from a rebel-controlled port, in a major escalation of a standoff over the country's petroleum wealth. The rebels, who have seized three major Libyan ports since August to press their demands for more autonomy, warned Tripoli against staging an attack to halt the oil sale after the tanker docked at Es Sider export terminal, one of the country's biggest. The oil dispute is just one facet of the deepening turmoil in the North African OPEC member, where the government is struggling to control militias who helped topple Muammar Gaddafi in 2011 but kept their weapons and now challenge state authority. A local television station controlled by protesters showed footage of pro-autonomy rebels holding a lengthy ceremony and slaughtering a camel to celebrate their first oil shipment. In the distance stood a tanker. Prime Minister Ali Zeidan appeared hours later on television to warn the tanker's crew. "The tanker will be bombed if it doesn't follow orders when leaving (the port). This will be an environmental disaster," Zeidan said. "They are now trying to load oil," he said, denouncing it as a criminal act. Authorities have ordered the arrest of the tanker's crew. There was no immediate sign of the country's armed forces moving towards the port. Analysts say the military, still in training, would struggle to overcome rebels battle-hardened from the eight-month uprising against Gaddafi. Zeidan acknowledged the army had failed to implement his orders last week to stop the protesters sending reinforcements from their base in Ajdabiyah, west of the regional capital Benghazi, to Es Sider. "Nothing was done," Zeidan said, adding that political opponents in parliament were obstructing his government. He said North Korea had asked the ship's captain to sail away from the port but armed protesters had prevented that. Abb-Rabbo Albarassi, the eastern autonomy movement's self-declared prime minister, said Zeidan's government had failed to meet its demands to share oil wealth, investigate oil corruption and to grant the regional autonomy. "We tried to reach a deal with the government, but they and parliament ... were too busy with themselves and didn't even discuss our demands," he told the televised ceremony. "If anyone attacks, we will respond to that." A successful independent oil shipment would be a blow to the government. Tripoli had said earlier it would destroy tankers trying to buy oil from Ibrahim Jathran, a former anti-Gaddafi rebel who seized the port and two others with thousands of his men in August. Jathran, who was seen attending the televised ceremony, had commanded a brigade of former rebels paid by the state to protect petroleum facilities. He defected with his troops, however, to take over the ports. In January, the Libyan navy fired on a Maltese-flagged tanker which it said had tried to load oil from the protesters in Es Sider. The North Korean-flagged Morning Glory, which was previously flagged in Liberia, had been circling off the Libyan coast for days. It tried to dock at Es Sider on Tuesday, when port workers still loyal to the central government told the crew to turn back. Storage tanks at Es Sider and other seized ports are full, according to oil sources. It is extremely unusual for an oil tanker flagged in secretive North Korea to operate in the Mediterranean, shipping sources said. A spokesman for state-run National Oil Corp (NOC) said the Morning Glory was owned by a Saudi company. It had changed ownership in the past few weeks and previously been called Gulf Glory, according to a shipping source. The Saudi embassy in Tripoli said in a statement that the kingdom's government had nothing to do with the tanker, without saying who owned it. PROTESTS Western powers worry Libya will slide into deeper instability or even break apart as the government, paralyzed by political battles in parliament, struggles to assert control of a vast country awash with arms and militias. At a Libya conference this week in Rome, Western countries voiced concern that tensions in Libya could slip out of control in the absence of a functioning political system, and urged the government and rival factions to start talking. Libya's government has tried to end a wave of protests at oil ports and fields across the vast desert state that have slashed oil output, the country's lifeline, to 230,000 barrels per day (bpd), from 1.4 million bpd in July. Tripoli has held indirect talks with Jathran but his demand for a greater share of oil revenues for the east, like the region had under Gaddafi's predecessor King Idris, is sensitive for a government that worries this might lead to secession. Jathran has teamed up with another set of protesters blocking oil exports at the 110,000-bpd Hariga port in Tobruk, also located in the east. Libya's defense minister held talks this week with protesters blocking the 340,000-bpd El Sharara oilfield in the south but there is no word on whether it will reopen soon. The protesters, from a tribal minority, want national identity cards and a local council, demands the minister has promised to study. (Additional reporting by Ghaith Shennib and Ayman al-Warfalli; Editing by Patrick Markey and Andrew Roche)

To: KyrosL who wrote (104864)	3/9/2014 4:57:26 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Respond to of 219194

“People in Odessa, Mykolaiv, Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk are coming out to defend their country,” Mr. Soboliev said. “They have never liked the western Ukrainian, Galician point of view. But they are showing themselves to be equally patriotic. They are defending their country from foreign aggression. Fantastical things are happening.” nytimes.com

To: KyrosL who wrote (104864)	3/10/2014 3:13:53 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Respond to of 219194

Ukraine's Chief Rabbi Refutes Putin's Anti-Semitic Charges worldaffairsjournal.org Yaakov Dov Bleich, chief rabbi of Ukraine, March 3, 2014: Rabbi Yaakov Dov Bleich, a chief rabbi of Ukraine, accused Russia of staging anti-Semitic “provocations” in Crimea in order to justify its invasion of the former Soviet republic. At a press conference in the Manhattan office of the United Jewish Communities of Eastern Europe, Bleich compared Russia’s behavior to that of the Nazis prior to the Anschluss invasion of Austria in 1938. "Things may be done by Russians dressing up as Ukrainian nationalists,” he said, adding that it’s “the same way the Nazis did when they wanted to go into Austria and created provocations.” Bleich, a vice president of the World Jewish Congress, also announced the creation of an aid effort, KievRelief.org, to fund security for synagogues and mosques and to provide humanitarian relief for all Ukrainians. Bleich, who moved to Ukraine in 1989 from Brooklyn, was slated, along with other Ukrainian political and religious leaders, to meet with Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday. He said he will urge Kerry to be assertive with Russian President Vladimir Putin, to move the G8 Summit to Kiev, as a show of solidarity with Ukrainians, and to consider sending military support to Ukraine. While acknowledging that Americans are “war-weary,” he said Ukrainians need “boots on the ground to protect democracy” and to prevent “the cold war from getting hot.” Asked about anti-Semitism among Ukrainian nationalists, particularly two far-right parties that have been included in the new government, Bleich acknowledged concerns but said the Jewish community has received assurances from top government leaders that their safety will be protected. Rabbi Misha Kapustin, rabbi of the Simferopol Reform Synagogue Ner Tamid, Crimea, March 3, 2014: Many here are against the Russians but are afraid to talk. I am a Ukrainian citizen and want to live in democratic Ukraine. The government has always provided protection for the Jews, and all the talk of anti-Semitism is exaggerated. The Russians have invaded illegally and that must be opposed. So far, people have encouraged me and I don’t believe my petition will cause any harm to the Jews.