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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (247041)3/10/2014 10:10:54 AM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543438
 
I would be willing to do that, but it would be a hardship for many people. As it is, I add money to my electric bill to finance their "needy" fund. Everyone then living will be needy if the earth's average temperature increases by 5 degrees in 50-100 years.



To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (247041)3/10/2014 10:13:51 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543438
 
We've been paying more on our bills for years. That's what financed the rebate program.

energy.ca.gov



To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (247041)3/10/2014 1:03:22 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543438
 
I should have added to the advantages that fossil fuels enjoy over solar that, for the most part, negative externalities aren't put into the cost equation. I include in negative externalities not only pollution and the widespread diseases that they cause (why do you think that asthma is a world wide epidemic these days, or that people in China wear masks in many of their cities?), but the wars that we have fought over the past several decades because the government wishes to protect one of the primary sources of those fuels.

If we are going to do it on the scale that is required in the time that is required, yes. That is my belief. Eventually, solar will happen with or without the government's help. But vested interests, sunk costs and existing infrastructure gives fossil fuels a huge advantage that, without the aid of government policy, can delay that for a long time. The playing field is far from "level."



To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (247041)3/11/2014 10:57:22 AM
From: Stock Puppy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543438
 
On my electric bill (New York) there is the ability to choose the provider of the energy.

You assign the provider and in theory the utility then buys the amount of energy that the subscribers use from that provider.

There is a limit of course as to how often you can change providers, and some you need to have annual contract.

There are choices for green sources where they produce using windmill and solar.