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To: tejek who wrote (142654)	3/24/2014 9:13:38 PM
From: zax	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Russia suspended from G8 World Leaders Will Exclude Putin From Summit Meeting By ALISON SMALE and MICHAEL D. SHEARMARCH 24, 2014 nytimes.com THE HAGUE — The United States and its closest allies on Monday cast Russia out of the Group of 8 industrialized democracies, their most exclusive club, to punish President Vladimir V. Putin for his lightning annexation of Crimea, while threatening tougher sanctions if he escalates aggression against Ukraine. President Obama and the leaders of Canada, Japan and Europe’s four strongest economies gathered for the first time since the Ukraine crisis erupted last month, using a closed two-hour meeting on the sidelines of a summit about nuclear security to project a united front against Moscow. But they stopped short, at least for now, of imposing sanctions against what a senior Obama administration official called vital sectors of the Russian economy: energy, banking and finance, engineering and the arms industry. Only further aggression by Mr. Putin — like rolling his forces into the Ukrainian mainland — would prompt that much-harsher punishment, the countries indicated in their joint statement, called the Hague Declaration. </snip> Read the rest here: nytimes.com

To: tejek who wrote (142654)	3/25/2014 1:16:21 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Tejek, I think we have to be very careful how we handle this Russian thing. We have been crowding Russia and most people don't know enough about foreign policy to know how the game is played. A missile defense system in Poland was always a right wing nutso idea. Liberals/dems always saw that as a huge danger, just as expanding NATO to Russia's doorstep would be. That whole area over there has been in constant war for hundreds of years, for ever, and they are more sensitive than we are to aggression by neighbors.

To: tejek who wrote (142654)	3/26/2014 10:00:50 PM
From: zax	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

30,000 Russian troops on Ukraine's Eastern border now, up from 20,000 last week. It is getting pretty clear that an invasion of mainland Ukraine is imminent. Russian Buildup On Ukraine Border Seen By Western Governments Posted: 03/26/2014 7:46 pm EDT Updated: 03/26/2014 7:59 pm EDT Print Article By Mark Hosenball huffingtonpost.com WASHINGTON, March 26 (Reuters) - U.S. and European security agencies estimate Russia has deployed military and militia units totaling more than 30,000 people along its border with eastern Ukraine, according to U.S. and European sources familiar with official reporting. The current estimates represent what officials on both sides of the Atlantic describe as a continuing influx of Russian forces along the Ukraine frontier, the sources said. The 30,000 figure represents a significant increase from a figure of 20,000 Russian troops along the border that was widely reported in U.S. and European media last week. But U.S. and European security sources noted that these estimates are imprecise. Some estimates put current troop levels as high as 35,000 while others still suggest a level of 25,000, the sources said. However, the sources said that U.S. and European government experts believe that there has been, and continues to be, a steady and noticeable buildup in the total number of Russian forces along the Ukrainian border, though some military units have rotated in or out of the area. U.S. and European security sources said that the Russian force deployed along the Ukraine border includes regular military including infantry and armored units and some air support. Also deployed are militia or special forces units comprised of Russian fighters, wearing uniforms lacking insignia or other identifying markings, similar to the first Russian forces to move into Crimea during Russia's recent military takeover there. U.S. officials said that what Russian President Vladimir Putin actually plans to do with his forces deployed on the Ukraine border is unknown. Some officials say intelligence information available to policymakers regarding what Putin is thinking, and what he is saying to his advisors and military commanders, is fragmentary to non-existent. But the portents are potentially ominous. "No one's ruling out the possibility of additional Russian military aggression," one U.S. official said. U.S. President Barack Obama was non-committal when asked about the 30,000 Russian troops estimate at a news conference in The Hague on Tuesday. "With respect to the Russian troops that are along the border of Ukraine at the moment, right now they are on Russian soil. And if they stay on Russian soil, we oppose what appears to be an effort of intimidation, but Russia has a right, legally, to have its troops on its own soil. I don't think it's a done deal. And I think that Russia's still making a series of calculations," Obama said. (Editing by Alistair Bell and Cynthia Osterman)