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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (247990)	3/24/2014 1:47:49 PM
From: Alex MG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543068

If you really think that in a country with over 300 million, the majority can be duped - then democracy is obviously a failure. You do understand that is what you are saying don't you? I don't think democracy is a failure and I think the people know EXACTLY what they are voting for - or against. I sure do. I'll make this as clear as I can Alex. I don't want a single person in America to go to bed hungry. I am preparred to pay a significant amount of my money to do that - but it can't be wasted and it has to be fair and it has to be healthy for the kids. ...........When I stand in line at a grocery store with a chunk of chuck steak that I have to slow cook for hours to make it chewable and the fat woman in front of me is buying a rib steak at a ridiculous price this is where i stopped reading your rant... always back to blaming everything on the poor and on the other hand you may vote for Rand Paul who will give more tax breaks to the already ridiculously wealthy and cut everything he can from the middle and bottom... there it is... those social libertarian "values" and as far as you not thinking the majority af Americans cannot be duped on political issues, who get all their "info" from the paid propaganda on TV or Fox news... all i can say is WOW

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (247990)	3/24/2014 3:28:17 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 543068

If you really think that in a country with over 300 million, the majority can be duped - then democracy is obviously a failure." Most of the country was duped by "yellowcake and aluminum tubes." Having been duped by Tonkin Gulf, Rat wasn't one of them. Does Iraq mean democracy is a failure? I'd say it failed the night Obama was inaugurated, done in by a gang of ne'er do-wells and intellectual dwarves, financed by Koch money. = As President Barack Obama was celebrating his inauguration at various balls, top Republican lawmakers and strategists were conjuring up ways to submarine his presidency at a private dinner in Washington. The event -- which provides a telling revelation for how quickly the post-election climate soured -- serves as the prologue of Robert Draper's much-discussed and heavily-reported new book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives." According to Draper, the guest list that night (which was just over 15 people in total) included Republican Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich, several years removed from his presidential campaign, and Frank Luntz, the long-time Republican wordsmith. Notably absent were Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) -- who, Draper writes, had an acrimonious relationship with Luntz. huffingtonpost.com

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (247990)	3/24/2014 4:52:01 PM
From: Metacomet	Respond to of 543068

we just don't seem to be able to find a way to do that Paul's idea would really help Flat tax on wage income No tax on investment income How fucking obvious is this clown

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (247990)	3/24/2014 6:33:58 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543068

<<If you really think that in a country with over 300 million, the majority can be duped - then democracy is obviously a failure. You do understand that is what you are saying don't you?>> No, it is not that democracy is a failure, it is that there is no other system that works better for the human species given the human condition. We all know the deficiencies in democracy. What we don't know is how to fix them.