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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (778218)4/3/2014 12:30:00 PM
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Clinton also eliminated security at the entrance to most bases. Today, anyone can drive in without credentials.



To: d[-_-]b who wrote (778218)4/3/2014 1:13:43 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 1575825
 

Among President Clinton’s first acts upon taking office in 1993 was to disarm U.S. soldiers on military bases.I


Damn those Democrats and their time machine!!!11!1

Although this original directive was issued in February 1992, Stockman and other opponents of the military’s policy on carrying personal firearms refer to this as a “Clinton-era” policy because the Army issued a separate instruction reinforcing the DoD policy in 1993.

militarytimes.com



To: d[-_-]b who wrote (778218)4/3/2014 2:18:47 PM
From: J_F_Shepard  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575825
 
If Clinton really imposed that law or regulation, and he didn't, why didn't Bush rescind it during his 8 years????
Also an armed guard at Columbine exchanged fire with the two killers at the school house door....SWAT teams didn't enter the school until 45 minutes after the shooting stopped.

mediamatters.org

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"Following the Texas mass shooting at Fort Hood in 2009, which killed 13 people, the Washington Times reported, "Among President Clinton's first acts upon taking office in 1993 was to disarm U.S. soldiers on military bases." Yesterday, bloggers at Breitbart.com and elsewhere unearthed the Washington Times piece to claim that, "thanks to Clinton," most personnel couldn't shoot back when they came under fire.

That claim has since jumped to Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. On America Live, Fox senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano blamed "an executive order from President Clinton in 1993 which prohibits carrying weapons when on duty on military posts" for the "magnitude" of the Navy Yard and Fort Hood massacres. Later in the program, Fox host Oliver North claimed that "in March of 1993, U.S. military bases were effectively made gun-free zones by executive order issued by Bill Clinton."

What these media conservatives are pointing to is not an executive order but a regulation issued by the Department of the Army in March 1993 regarding firearms on military bases. While that rule said most soldiers are not allowed to carry weapons, the Army certainly did not ban all guns in those facilities.

According to the Army's 1993 directive:

a. The authorization to carry firearms will be issued only to qualified personnel when there is a reasonable expectation that life or Department of the Army (DA) assets will be jeopardized if firearms are not carried.

b. DA personnel regularly engaged in law enforcement or security duties will be armed.

c. DA personnel are authorized to carry firearms while engaged in security duties, protecting personnel and vital Government assets, or guarding prisoners.

Moreover, while conservatives are blaming Clinton for the Army regulation, The New Republic's Ryan Kearney points out that the rule was actually established in response to a 1992 Department of Defense directive, issued during the presidency of George H. W. Bush.

Curiously, the conservatives pushing these claims did not question why, if Clinton really backed such a naked gun grab, President George W. Bush didn't change the rules for military bases during his eight years in office. (Answer: Clinton didn't.)

Meanwhile, yesterday's tragedy simply confirms what we already knew about gun-free zones, and further debunks the claim that they're culpable for gun rampages.

First, the right-wing myth that shooters specifically open fire on locations that don't allow guns because they know there won't be armed resistance. That's false. As Mother Jones reported as part of its ongoing analysis of gun rampages, "Among the 62 mass shootings over the last 30 years that we studied, not a single case includes evidence that the killer chose to target a place because it banned guns." An analysis from Mayors Against Illegal Guns found that fewer than one quarter of mass shootings in public spaces from January 2009 through January 2013 occurred in gun-free zones.

Instead, most gunmen choose their killing sites because they have a personal connection to it (i.e. it's their workplace or school), not because of the location's posted gun policy.

Secondly, if more guns, and access to more guns, is the answer to curbing shooting sprees, then why haven't more guns curbed shooting sprees? As Mother Jones noted, nearly 100 state laws loosening gun restrictions have been passed in the last four years, yet 2012 was the worst year for mass shootings in recent history.

Now, thanks to the Navy Yard massacre, 2013 is on track to set another deadly record. And no, "gun-free zones" aren't the reason why.