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To: Don Hurst who wrote (780527)	4/18/2014 5:05:25 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Respond to of 1583326

Don, I do not see a lot of Dems cheering those decisions. That's because the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the 1st amendment and against government control, both of which would anger Democrats. Tenchusatsu

To: Don Hurst who wrote (780527)	4/18/2014 9:02:45 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583326

Colorado deaths stoke worries about pot edibles AP Photo: Ed Andrieski A caregiver points out the strength of an edible marijuana candy bar at a medical marijuana dispensary in Denver on Friday, April 18, 2014. 2 hr ago By SADIE GURMAN of Associated Press DENVER (AP) — A college student eats more than the recommended dose of a marijuana-laced cookie and jumps to his death from a hotel balcony. A husband with no history of violence is accused of shooting his wife in the head, possibly after eating pot-infused candy. The two recent deaths have stoked concerns about Colorado's recreational marijuana industry and the effects of the drug, especially since cookies, candy and other pot edibles can be exponentially more potent than a joint. "We're seeing hallucinations, they become sick to their stomachs, they throw up, they become dizzy and very anxious," said Al Bronstein, medical director of the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center. Twenty-six people have reported poisonings from marijuana edibles this year, when the center started tracking such exposures. Six were children who swallowed innocent-looking edibles, most of which were in plain sight. Five of those kids were sent to emergency rooms, and two to hospitals for intensive care, Bronstein said. Children were nauseous and sleepy, and doctors worried about their respiratory systems shutting down. Supporters of the pot law and some experts counter that alcohol causes far more problems among users, and the issues with pot can be largely addressed through better regulations. The deaths occurred as Colorado lawmakers are scrambling to create safety regulations for the largely unmonitored marijuana snacks. On Thursday, the Legislature advanced a package of bills that would lower the amount of THC that could be permitted in a serving of food and require more extensive warning labels. "It really is time for regulators, and the industry, to look at how do we move forward more responsibly with edible products," said Brian Vicente, who helped lead the state's legalization campaign. Authorities have not formally linked the shooting death of Kristine Kirk, 44, to consumption of marijuana by her husband. However, in the case of 19-year-old Wyoming college student Levy Thamba Pongi, an autopsy report listed marijuana intoxication as a significant contributing factor in his death. Studies are mixed about whether there is any link between marijuana and violence. Still, pot legalization opponents said the deaths are a sign of future dangers. "Sadly, we're going to start to understand over time all of the damage and all of the problems associated with marijuana," said Thornton police Sgt. Jim Gerhardt, speaking in his capacity as a board member of the Colorado Drug Investigators Association. "It's going to dispel the myth that there's no downside, that there's no side effect, to this drug," he said. "It's sad that people are going to have to be convinced with the blood of Coloradans." Authorities said Pongi, who traveled to Denver with friends to try marijuana, ate six times more than the amount recommended by a seller. In the moments before his death, he spoke erratically and threw things around his hotel room. Toxicologists later found that the cookie Pongi ate contained as much THC — marijuana's intoxicating chemical — as six high-quality joints. Less is known about Richard Kirk, 47, who was charged in Denver with shooting his wife to death while she was on the phone with a 911 dispatcher. Police said she reported that her husband had consumed marijuana-laced candy, but no information has been released about potency. The public defender's office has declined comment on the allegations against Kirk. State lawmakers last year required edible pot to be sold in "serving sizes" of 10 milligrams of THC. Lawmakers also charged marijuana regulators with setting potency-testing guidelines to ensure consumers know how much pot they're eating. The guidelines are slated to be unveiled next month. For now, the industry is trying to educate consumers about the strength of pot-infused foods and warning them to wait up to an hour to feel any effects before eating more. Still, complaints from visitors and first-time users have been rampant. "One of the problems is people become very impatient," Bronstein said. "They eat a brownie or a chocolate chip cookie and they get no effect, so then they stack the doses and all the sudden they get an extreme effect that they weren't expecting." Last year, the poison center run by Bronstein received 126 calls concerning adverse reactions to marijuana. So far this year — after pot sales became legal on Jan. 1 — the center has gotten 65 calls. Bronstein attributed the spike to the higher concentrations of THC in marijuana that has become available. Although millions of Americans have used pot without becoming violent, Bronstein said such behavior is possible depending on the type of hallucinations a user experiences. Toxicologists say genetic makeup, health issues and other factors also can make a difference. "With these products, everybody is inexperienced," Bronstein said. "It's the first time people have been able to buy it in a store. People need to be respectful of these products." http://news.msn.com/us/colorado-deaths-stoke-worries-about-pot-edibles

To: Don Hurst who wrote (780527)

4/18/2014 9:34:27 PM

From: Broken_Clock

Respond to of 1583326

Maybe you have a better answer than koan. -g-
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Message 29495322

I despise you pulling shit like that! Let me make that very clear. Those dem votes are irrelevant. Presidents should generally be allowed to nominate whom they want; and dems and pubs should support them in most cases.

So I find your little trickery disgusting, but the norm for you. A blind man can see it is intended to rationalize the terrible decisions of the Roberts court.

The 5 pub justices voted for Citizens United and the 4 dem justices voted against it. You have no honor.

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To: koan who wrote ( 780452)	4/17/2014 9:08:32 PM
From: Broken_Clock	of 780523

Those justices who voted FOR Citizens United and their SC confirmation votes: Kennedy - unanimous vote by Senate Dems Roberts - only 22 Dems opposed Alito - 10 Dems voted Yea despite a Dem controlled senate Scalia - unanimous Thomas- 9 Dems voted Yea despite a Dem controlled Senate The Dems are just as responsible as the Reps for voting these five into the SC. That is democracy. That is what YOU keep harping on.

To: Don Hurst who wrote (780527)	4/19/2014 10:31:07 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1583326

Kennedy is a conservative ? really. what about Unions ?

To: Don Hurst who wrote (780527)	4/19/2014 10:38:30 AM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Recommended By TopCat Respond to of 1583326

"“Government,” as the saying goes, “is just a word for things we do together.” That may be so. But “Corporation,” as David Burge once quipped, “is just a word for things we do together voluntarily.” Since the Supreme Court handed down its decision in Citizens United v. FEC in 2010, one of the favorite battle cries of the left has been that “Corporations are not people!” And in one sense, they are right: Corporations are not living, breathing, carbon-based beings. But this argument is nothing more than a straw man — and a much-abused one at that. No one has ever seriously argued that corporations are flesh-and-blood people. The legal concept of “corporate personhood” in the United States has existed for nearly 200 years and plainly states, in the words of Supreme Court Justice Stephen J. Field, that corporations are “merely associations of individuals united for a special purpose and permitted to do business under a particular name.” The real issue has never been whether corporations themselves are people, but rather, whether these people forfeit their rights when they choose to associate with one another. For all of the fear-mongering over corporate money in politics, Citizens United does little but reaffirm that people do not forgo their First Amendment right to speech when they form a corporation. The Supreme Court has long held and repeatedly affirmed that there is “no doubt” that the 14th Amendment extends equal protection to private corporations. Thus, people cannot be denied their right to speech merely due to the manner in which they organize themselves. Contrary to popular belief, the decision did not affect restrictions on direct campaign contributions or limits on contributions from individual donors. As bad as allowing people who have organized themselves together as a corporation to spend their own money to advocate their own interests is, the alternatives are far worse. …Corporations aren’t literally flesh-and-blood people. But they are made up of people. And whatever your opinion may be of the political power or influence of corporations, all but the most fervent statists must conclude that the mere fact that people have organized themselves together is not reason enough to deny them their rights."