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To: robert b furman who wrote (1102)4/28/2014 10:39:15 AM
From: Kirk ©1 Recommendation

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Good point. I forgot about AMAT.
Amat merging with Tokyo Electron and becoming a Netherlands corporation is another example.
I've been making this argument for OVER 35 YEARS that treating job creating companies as evil doers deserving hefty tax punishment was driving jobs out of the country! Sadly, back in 1978 when I was a summer intern learning how HP was shipping test jobs held by "English as a second language" workers to Singapore for tax savings plus moving Silicon Valley jobs out of State... nobody seems to have learned the lesson and now they are talking in CA about setting tax rates on corporations based on how much they pay their CEOs vs the rank-and-file... as if that will help raise the pay of the bottom workers... phucking idjiots we have here in Taxifornia....



To: robert b furman who wrote (1102)4/28/2014 10:44:01 AM
From: Kirk ©  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 26763
 
Are you and I really that much smarter than anyone in politics or are they trying to destroy the country and CA under cover of some tax fairness BS?

Forget about any more IPOs which have generated a ton of taxes for CA as CEOs like Zuck, Brin, etc.... cash out and get taxed at 12.3% for CA taxes.... why go public in the US?

taxfoundation.org
California Floats Proposal to Tie Corporate Tax Rate to CEO Pay

April 24, 2014 By Scott Drenkard

The California Senate is considering SB 1372, which would tie the corporate income tax rate in the state to the ratio of pay of a company’s CEO compared to its median worker. While proposals to cap CEO pay are not entirely novel, this is the first such proposal I know of to attempt to do so through the tax code.

Proponents of the bill argue the measure would push “companies to put less money into the hands of their CEOs and more into the hands of average employees.” But I’m not convinced the outcomes would be as proponents intend.

The bill would create a sliding scale detailed here:

If the CEO to median worker compensation ratio isThe applicable corporate income tax rate is
Over zero but not over 257%
Over 25 but not over 507.5%
Over 50 but not over 1008%
Over 100 but not over 1509%
Over 150 but not over 2009.5%
Over 200 but not over 25010%
Over 250 but not over 30011%
Over 300 but not over 40012%
Over 40013%
NOTE: This special formulation would only apply to publicly-traded corporations, and CEO compensation would be calculated based on SEC definitions.

Currently California taxes corporate income at a top rate of 8.84 percent, the 10th highest rate in the country. If enacted, this proposal would raise the top corporate rate to 13 percent, which would be the highest in the country. When added to the 35 percent federal corporate income tax rate ( already the highest in the world!), companies would face a top marginal rate of 48 percent, which doesn’t really pass the laugh test for competing in a global market.

Secondly, this proposal would disproportionately affect retail companies where much of the workforce is comprised of sales associates in entry-level positions. Using median worker compensation as the denominator for corporate tax liability hurts business models that are primarily composed of large numbers of customer service representatives ( JC Penny, Abercrombie and Fitch, Starbucks, and other popular employers). These businesses would be less competitive at attracting capable CEOs if they were forced by tax law to cut executive wages in half.

In a broader perspective, state corporate income taxes are seriously flawed, mostly because policymakers ask them to accomplish far more goals than they possibly could. States use special provisions to try to incentivize job creation, spur research and development, boost investment, preference American manufacturing, change business geographical location, the list goes on. This proposal, if nothing else, adds “promote wage equality” to that list of tasks for the corporate tax code.

Taxes at their best should have one purpose: raise revenue for government services. This proposal steps in the opposite direction and tries to use the tax code to change behavior.

More on California.