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To: isopatch who wrote (183752)5/6/2014 2:01:38 PM
From: Bearcatbob1 Recommendation

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SEDCO 445

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The way to stop this is for a guy like your Senator Manchin to tell Harry Reid if this continues he will become an independent a caucus with with the Republicans. Just as jumping Jeffers changed history - perhaps so could Jumpin' Joe. Depending on the election this fall Manchin may hold the key to power in the Senate.

Simply voting against a nominee is absolutely - absolutely meaningless. Removing Harry Reid from power would be meaningful.

Bob



To: isopatch who wrote (183752)5/6/2014 2:12:06 PM
From: steve harris  Respond to of 206181
 
Podesta knows the republican leadership is in bed with the democrats.

Nothing new here......



To: isopatch who wrote (183752)5/6/2014 10:54:39 PM
From: Biomaven4 Recommendations

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Bwana Jim
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Tom Daly

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For me, coal is the devil. Twice the CO2 than natural gas on an energy-equivalent basis. Replacing coal with anything else is the low-hanging fruit as far as I am concerned.

To my mind it's criminal that Germany is shutting down its nuclear plants, both because that electricity will likely be replaced mainly by coal and because it strengthen's Putin's hand. Right now their energy policy is totally crazy - high solar subsidies (in a country that is severely sun-deficient) that have destabilized their utilities and caused high electricity prices, together with increased coal use that has served to increase CO2 emissions.

Now do I know exactly how increased CO2 levels will affect climate? Of course not - nobody does. But I do know that it (and methane) are both greenhouse gases, and higher greenhouse gas levels will almost certainly lead to more warming. (There are still uncertainties over issues like the offsetting effects of increased cloud cover in a hotter and moister environment). From my perspective we are running a science experiment here that could easily have a very bad outcome. Lots of very scary scenarios out there, like melting permafrost causing a large methane release leading to a disastrous forward-feedback loop.

It's incontrovertible that CO2 levels are at all-time highs over the last 800,000 years at least:

slate.com

I know this viewpoint is not at all popular on this thread. I myself was on the skeptical side about a decade ago until I studied the scientific evidence much more closely.

Peter



To: isopatch who wrote (183752)5/7/2014 11:09:03 AM
From: Bread Upon The Water1 Recommendation

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Tom Daly

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the key is to educate the voters on what coal means to West virginia's economy. It only employ's only 3% of the population yet it continues to blow up their mountains, pollute their streams, and kill their employees.

"Why do you/we tolerate this?" is the way to frame the question? Also need a primary candidate to challenge Manchin who is the coal lobby's pocket.



To: isopatch who wrote (183752)5/8/2014 2:34:42 PM
From: Dennis Roth2 Recommendations

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Ken Robbins
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My only comment is that what ever Obama does by executive order, in his attempt to do an end run around
the elected representatives of the people, can be undone by another executive order of the next President or
by a Congress that grows a pair. Executive orders are not statutory law, they are not written in stone. So I
would not get too upset by his attempts to undemocratically force unpopular measures on the people in the
waning months of his term. Many will be removed before they can come into full effect.