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To: one_less who wrote (785715)5/20/2014 5:48:18 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579790
 
Here's one problem….

I know that my style of "discussion" can be 'in your face' at times, yet I have never been put on ignore by a Right wing SI poster nor an Independent. All my ignores come from the Left even though on many issues(war, corporations, banks, etc.) I am far more left than they are.

Conclusion:

The left is far more intolerant of opposing views than the right is, and even more intolerant when it comes to criticism from those on the left.

I had lunch with a Chinese dude that grew up as a minority in Hawaii. Chinese and Japanese don't get along much at all. He ives in SoCal now and worked hard and put all three kids through SC and/or Stanford. Really nice guy. Just worked hard and instilled the same in his 3 kids, all of whom have PhDs. His sone has 3 separate majors and is 24 years old.

It is nigh impossible for the left to admit their long held beliefs system is broken in many aspects. The hypocrisy of the Left is downright astounding when it comes to war, corporations etc. The right makes no bones about where they stand, even if it is often on quicksand. The Left says one thing but does another more than the Right wing, at least from what i see.



To: one_less who wrote (785715)5/20/2014 5:58:35 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579790
 
Here is a prime example. The Democrats simply ignore the destruction of Libya. I thought and still think GWB was a complete tool, but Obama has set new lows as a President. Yet, it's impossible to even discuss the many atrocities he has committed and continues to commit on a daily basis.
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A Nation Disintegrates
Libya on the Brink of Civil War
by PATRICK COCKBURN
Libya is tipping toward all-out civil war as rival militias take sides for and against an attempted coup led by a renegade general that has pushed the central government towards disintegration.

In a move likely to deepen the crisis, the army chief of staff, whose regular forces are weak and ill-armed, called on Islamist-led militias to help preserve the government.

His call came after forces commanded by General Khalifa Hifter stormed the parliament building in Tripoli at the weekend, after earlier attacking Islamist militia camps in Benghazi.

The fighting has been the heaviest since the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi in 2011 and there are signs that opposing militias and elements of the security forces in different parts of the country and with differing ideologies may be readying to fight a civil war.

A Libyan air force base in Tobruk in the east of the country on Monday declared allegiance to Gen Hifter while Benghazi airport has been closed after being hit with rockets. Some 43 people were killed and 100 wounded in fighting in Benghazi at the end of last week.

The attack on the parliament building in the capital on Sunday was made by militiamen armed with truck-mounted anti-aircraft guns, mortars and rocket-propelled grenade launchers. The parliament leader Nouri Abu Sahmein – in sympathy with the Islamists – called on an alliance of Islamist militias known as the Libyan Central shield to stop Gen Hifter’s forces.

Al-Qa’ida type movements such as the Lions of Monotheism have pledged to resist Gen Hifter, a spokesman saying on its website that “you have entered a battle you will lose”.

The most powerful competing paramilitary movements are based in Misurata on the coast east of Tripoli and Zintan in the mountains to the west. Zintan appears to be backing Gen Hifter, whose own support inside and outside the country is shadowy, with the powerful Qaqaa and Sawaiq brigades.

The latest step in the dissolution of the Libyan state underlines the degree to which the opposition has proved unable to fill the vacuum left by the fall of Gaddafi. The war which led to his defeat in 2011 was largely fought by NATO air power.

Paradoxically, both the militiamen attacking and defending the government are paid out of the central budget. In addition, Gaddafi had 100,000 men under arms who still receive a monthly salary as if they were part of the regular forces, but few turn up to work.

Al-Qa’ida type militias such as Ansar al-Sharia are strongest in Benghazi where they are held responsible for much of the mayhem. In Tripoli, Islamist militia leaders and their staffs have taken over whole floors of the best hotels such as the Radisson Blu.

On news of fresh fighting in Libya, the international price of oil rose to $110 a barrel for Brent crude. The Libyan oilfields had just been reopened after a prolonged closure of oil export terminals in the east of the country but are now shut again. Libyan oil output has fallen to 200,000 barrels a day, compared to 1.4 million barrels a day produced last year.

Many people in Tripoli express sympathy with General Hifter’s denunciations of the Islamic militias as the popular mood becomes increasingly desperate over the collapse of civil order and the central state. Gen Hifter said “this is not a coup against the state, we are not seeking power. Terrorism and its servants want it to be a battle”. The general, who in the 1980s fought for Gaddafi in Mali but defected to the US, where he lived for many years, returned to Libya in 2011 but played only a limited role in the revolt. His hostility to the militias will go down well with many Libyans, but his forces are in practice just one more militia faction and dependent on his alliance with other militias.

Nevertheless, Libyans express growing support for anybody who can restore order and public safety by whatever means necessary.



To: one_less who wrote (785715)5/20/2014 10:31:56 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1579790
 
Conditions have worsened. The protections from discrimination, enablements like affirmative action and Equal Opportunity are major boosts. Welfare funding should never be looked at as anything but a temporary support for people who want a better life. So why have conditions worsened from the 1950s until now?

They are? WTH are you talking about?




At what point do you begin to deal with the fact that the system is counter productive for some people and it can't be explained away by pointing your finger at the few remaining white racists. Racism isn't tolerated and affirmative action is endorsed and promoted in all sectors of society except those which don't have an impact on the on mainstream culture.


Racism is no longer institutionalized in this country. That doesn't mean its gone away. You can't legislate away people's biases.

The only actual instance of racism I've seen is your attacks on Condi Rice, and I guarantee you are not going to hold her down. That may be the only legitimate kind of racism still alive, bashing conservative black people for succeeding. The mainstream wants to see black culture thriving and living well, the system is just not helping to bring that about.


I've made racist attacks on Rice? Where, when, how?