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To: epicure who wrote (250964)	5/24/2014 10:41:33 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541299

"oops, we were too optimistic" Been like that since at least '07. Deniers don't want to understand that the "alarmists" are pretty conservative. "it's even possible there may be systems that produce a waterfall effect- and that things will go much more swiftly than we think" I'd say "probable". Yeah, we gotta keep hoping, but we had better start doing, too. I wish Congress would say, "yeah, what California just did." Arctic Ice Melting Much Faster Than Predicted Richard A. Lovett for National Geographic News May 1, 2007 Arctic Ocean sea ice is melting faster than even the most advanced climate change models predict, a new study concludes. news.nationalgeographic.com

To: epicure who wrote (250964)	5/25/2014 12:09:48 AM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541299

And I console myself with this- even if things ARE as bad as the worst case scenario, the Earth abides. It will do fine with or without us. The earth recovered from Snowball Earth (cf en.wikipedia.org ), it will recover from high levels of CO2. Especially since, as some of the deniers have pointed out, we are due for another Ice Age in a few thousand years due to Milankovitch cylces, which should tend to cool things off: en.wikipedia.org Of course, that theory has several variations, so the cooling off may be beginning now or imminently, or maybe in the next 10k years or maybe not for another 50k years. And maybe it will postponed for even longer due to increased GGs in the atmosphere, who knows. But life is tough and resourceful, especially when abetted by intelligence. It even exists at the bottom of oceans where there is no sunlight. Humans will figure out how to survive even in inhospitable environments. It may not be especially pleasant, but the challenge will exercise our ingenuity and cooperative instincts.