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To: Bilow who wrote (52795)	5/30/2014 9:10:32 AM
From: Land Shark	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86355

Name me one that was made extinct by man-made CO2. The science (IPCC) PROJECTS the following: "Anthropogenic warming could lead to some impacts that are abrupt or irreversible, depending upon the rate and magnitude of the climate change." "There is medium confidence that approximately 20-30% of species assessed so far are likely to be at increased risk of extinction if increases in global average warming exceed 1.5-2.5 °C (relative to 1980-1999). As global average temperature increase exceeds about 3.5 °C, model projections suggest significant extinctions (40-70% of species assessed) around the globe." AGW impacts are coming in the FUTURE. It's irresponsible, if not criminal, to ignore AGW and hope for the best. Right now the majority of species in the world are in DECLINE, thanks to various reasons including habitat destruction (e.g. deforestation), poaching, overfishing, pollution and AGW. You guys are in favor of shutting down the EPA, yet you show false concern over raptors running into a few windmills (because they cut into the hydrocarbon market). That's disgusting.

To: Bilow who wrote (52795)	5/30/2014 10:41:53 AM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 86355

I'm looking forward to the first California condor being killed by a wind turbine .... assuming it hasn't happened and been buried. The California condor’s slow 20-year climb back from the brink of extinction has long been a fragile not-quite-success story in the conservation world. So when the news came on Friday that developers of a wind-energy project near the Mojave Desert would not face criminal charges if the blades killed a single condor, environmental groups expressed grave concern. ..... nytimes.com kcet.org The California Condor Versus Renewable Energy—Whose Side Are You On?A wind operator gets permission to injure or kill one of the state’s most endangered birds. takepart.com