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To: Kirk © who wrote (1421)6/16/2014 12:19:36 PM
From: Jerome  Respond to of 26536
 
Hi Kirk....Index funds are great for safety and protecting one's downside.

Have any of your index funds done more than 40%in the last 12 months? Or more than 40% for three consecutive years?

Here we are in the best bull market in the last 30 years, and some are saying "This is just too good....and I'll have to go to the sidelines with an index fund"

Now in your favor some would say with CD yields are in the 1 to 2% range (Jumbo CD's) and in comparison ETF's and index funds look magnificent.

I was surprised to note how low savings rates were according to your link.

For those interested in what Warren is invested in.....use the following link.
cnbc.com

Note ...there is not a single ETF or index fund in his holdings.

A trust and an active investor have different objectives. A trust should preserve capital at all costs, while an active investor seeks to maximize returns over the short and long term.

Warren may recommend index funds for his trust (but this not what he currently investing in) and its a safe bet to suggest to others, but it did not get him to where he is now. Had he stuck with index funds when he started investing he would be wealthy.....but to a much lessor extent.

In my opinion using an ETF for capital appreciation is like taking a moped to the Indy 500

Someday Kirk...you and I might agree on something....:-)



To: Kirk © who wrote (1421)6/16/2014 11:37:51 PM
From: ETF11 Recommendation

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Kirk wrote: "Read his most recent annual letter to shareholders where he said he instructed his trust to put 90% into an S&P500 index fund and 10% into ST bonds"

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I have excerpted this from the Berkshire Hathaway 2013 Annual Report:

"Most investors, of course, have not made the study of business prospects a priority in their lives. If wise, they will conclude that they do not know enough about specific businesses to predict their future earning power.



I have good news for these non-professionals: The typical investor doesn’t need this skill. In aggregate, American business has done wonderfully over time and will continue to do so (though, most assuredly, in unpredictable fits and starts). In the 20th Century, the Dow Jones Industrials index advanced from 66 to 11,497, paying a rising stream of dividends to boot. The 21st Century will witness further gains, almost certain to be substantial. The goal of the non-professional should not be to pick winners – neither he nor his “helpers” can do that – but should rather be to own a cross-section of businesses that in aggregate are bound to do well. A low-cost S&P 500 index fund will achieve this goal.



That’s the “what” of investing for the non-professional. The “when” is also important. The main danger is that the timid or beginning investor will enter the market at a time of extreme exuberance and then become disillusioned when paper losses occur. (Remember the late Barton Biggs’ observation: “A bull market is like sex. It feels best just before it ends.”) The antidote to that kind of mistiming is for an investor to accumulate shares over a long period and never to sell when the news is bad and stocks are well off their highs. Following those rules, the “know-nothing” investor who both diversifies and keeps his costs minimal is virtually certain to get satisfactory results. Indeed, the unsophisticated investor who is realistic about his shortcomings is likely to obtain better long-term results than the knowledgeable professional who is blind to even a single weakness.



My money, I should add, is where my mouth is: What I advise here is essentially identical to certain instructions I’ve laid out in my will. One bequest provides that cash will be delivered to a trustee for my wife’s benefit. (I have to use cash for individual bequests, because all of my Berkshire shares will be fully distributed to certain philanthropic organizations over the ten years following the closing of my estate.) My advice to the trustee could not be more simple: Put 10% of the cash in short-term government bonds and 90% in a very low-cost S&P 500 index fund. (I suggest Vanguard’s.) whether pension funds, institutions or individuals – who employ high-fee managers."