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To: Gauguin who wrote (5211)	12/14/1997 3:12:00 AM
From: jpmac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

>>I understand counties/states desire to control alcohol<< hmmm, gaugie. yes, rather serious. so i'm thinkin'... the county controls nothing here but the lack of legal sales within their borders. and that's nothing. alcohol is prevalant and pervasive. but they have the illusion, the sham, the cover of being a god-fearing (their term) territory. and it's only an illusion. when i'd been here in the past, i kept to myself and my family so i was unaware of the habits of the natives. since i moved back this time and have met people it's been an education. and in many respects, not a pleasant one. you'd think having been in S.F. and L.A. i would have seen it all. but it didn't prepare me for this. silly as it may sound, i've been shocked. i knew people that drank casually, socially, and from hanging out in bars, especially, people who drank far too much. and i encountered the problems that come from the abuse of alcohol. but nothing compared to the scale i see it here on. they don't sell it. and they do little to nothing to deal with the problems it's misuse can bring about. i've been close to and involved with one situation after another where there was domestic violence related to alcohol. and accidents. and lost lives. and lost opportunities. but rather than dealing, they pretend it doesn't exist. might embarrass them, i think. and it doesn't seem to occur to the powers that be, that teaching responsibility would solve a lot of problems. there's little of that. if you drink a drop you're damned. so heck, ya might as well down the whole jug. somethin' like that. okay, okay. enough carryin' on for now.

To: Gauguin who wrote (5211)	12/14/1997 9:07:00 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 71178

Your and jp's conversation last night was great-I wish you all wouldn't apologise. And I think your whole point about empowerment and ultimate responsibility can be expanded into every area of life. Not only does the concept apply to controlling negative actions but for taking positive ones. In my opinion, the reason entitlement programs don't work is that they remove that motivation, that empowerment, especially because of their open-ended nature. Of course, then we get into the areas of whether people really have choices or options anymore at that level or have become so beaten down that they no longer have the ability to feel personal control. I am more concerned at this point about my own children's ability to make respnsible decisions, particular in the areas of alcohol, drugs, and sex. CW asked us the other night why drinking one beer would be wrong. I'd be curious about how you all would respond to this---from the legal aspect? the driving aspect? the loss of control? moral issues? Dan and I had slightly differing ideas so I'd really love to hear your thoughts-or even your teen experiences should you be so inclined. You can intersperse remarks about possums if it makes you feel better.