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To: Ed Pettee who wrote (5523)12/14/1997 11:34:00 AM
From: T.K. Allen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10368
 
Ed - I am curious about the sequence of events and possible outcomes the U.S. judge can follow. The most recent State article says:

That seems likely to change sometime next year. Last week, anti-poker lawyers asked a federal judge to shut down the industry as an illegal lottery. U.S. District Judge Joe Anderson could send that question directly to the state Supreme Court for a decision on whether video poker is a lottery.

This paragraph indicates a FEDERAL case has already been presented and that the U.S. judge "could" send the question to the SC Supreme Court. This raises several questions:

1. How long before the U.S. judge issues a ruling?
2. What options does the U.S. judge have? It sounds like sending the issue to the SC Supreme Court is only one of several possible alternatives he could choose.
3. How is it that a federal judge has jurisdiction over a state constitutional issue?
4. If the issue is refered to the SC Supreme Court, how long before arguments will be heard and how long after that before a decision would be announced?

If the federal jugde decides to send the issue to the SC Supreme Court, it would seem to me they would, again, bounce the issue back to a lower court as they have already done. I guess I am confused as to why this thing is a federal issue. I suppose it has something to do with class-action law (wish I were an attorney). Sounds to me like the SC AG is trying to find a way around having to prevail in the SC court system where he has lost every time. JMO.

TKA



To: Ed Pettee who wrote (5523)12/14/1997 12:37:00 PM
From: Nittany Lion  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10368
 
Ed,

I'll take your argument a step further. I go to Vegas once a year and I play a lot of Video Poker and I also watch a lot of others play. If you would take 10 identically programmed machines and let 10 people play 100 hands each - each person would have a different amount of money afterwards. Whereas, if you would do the same thing with slot machines each person would have the same amount after 100 pulls. I don't know how much you could argue this is attributable to skill but there again how much would you have to prove. As you said, its all in what you keep or elect to discard.

A good personal example - when traveling this summer, we stopped at Casino Niagra on the Canadian side of the Falls. I was playing a $ poker machine that dealt me a heart flush (ace,king,queen,jack,three). I think most would have taken the $25 pay-off and moved on to the next hand, but I discarded the 3 and drew the 10 of hearts for the Royal Flush and $4000. Everyone plays just a little different.

I always like to ask people in Vegas how they are doing and the typical response is "oh , about even". I can honestly say that with a couple more Royal Flushes I will be "oh about even" for all my trips.(ggg)

BTW, an interesting point - when the machine deals you a hand it deals you 10 cards - the 5 you see and 5 more right underneath those. So in some respect your hand is predetermined, but then again, which are you going to keep?

Gary