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To: David Smith who wrote (87)	12/14/1997 11:45:00 AM
From: wlheatmoon	Respond to of 2377

"The only "clients" I have are $20 billion mutual funds and hedge funds open only to the extremely rich. This is an extremely important point to understand if you are serious about playing this game." Christopher, So, how much do I need to be a "client" and what are your returns? No matter what I (us little people) think or try to do, I always seem to be among the outsiders. Oh, well. I am primarily a lurker on this thread, but I appreciated much of your insight. I have no clue if you or anyone of the people here are sincere, and I have no inkling about your motivation. I do appreciate your thoughts, though; and they do make sense. A couple of questions, why do these people think you are someone else who is posting with aliases. What's your motivation, and why are you participating on SI? Not a flame, just curious. MChen

To: David Smith who wrote (87)	12/14/1997 11:48:00 AM
From: Ga Bard	Respond to of 2377

Christopher I do not give kind words... LOL I am too forward and blunt. You will forget far more apparently about this industry than I will ever know. 6 months ago I QUIT following these clicks, newsletters and stock market self appointed GURUS and I went from a 14K lost on 20K to a 60K profit in 6 months. My daddy always told me when you lead you win when you follow you lose. Again I am not being kind just honest and truthful with my opinion. I now only play picks from the real world that do not want internet in them. JMO GB

To: David Smith who wrote (87)	12/14/1997 12:14:00 PM
From: TheInvestor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2377

Christoper: "I've printed out that post and will be taking it to work tomorrow, where the traders on the desk will get a huge laugh out of it. Ben, if you think you are a client of mine or any other MM, or that we are in business together, or that I will not use every technique possible to out-trade you and take your money in any way I can so I can put braces on my kid's teeth and send them to private school, you should put all your money in an index fund and watch the game from the sidelines. The only "clients" I have are $20 billion mutual funds and hedge funds open only to the extremely rich. This is an extremely important point to understand if you are serious about playing this game. " You can take my post to your MM friends a have good laugh, but remember this, you "live by sword, you shall perish by the sword". History has taught us, that those who are ambitious at the cost of others will eventually fall. If the name of the game is to deceive and steal from others, don't complain too much if you loose all you have playing the same game. Juleus Ceasar thought he was powerfull and no one could challenge him, look how he died with 13 swords in his back. What I am trying to say, a good business is one that has integrity not one that the participants are constantly at each others throat. If that is the way you see things, I truly feel sorry for your family. Because they are the only constant you have, that depend on you for survival. Take this post to your MM friends as well, Ben

To: David Smith who wrote (87)	12/14/1997 1:42:00 PM
From: Instock	Respond to of 2377

Christopher: I have read several post here from people who have agreed with parts of what you have said. I have read where people would like you to go into more detail and inform us of what you know. Whenever you are ready to start posting information about Market Makers, or whatever, I for one am all ears. There is room on this thread for debate as well as gaining greater education in investing. I hope you will join in and share your knowledge with us. Instock

To: David Smith who wrote (87)	12/14/1997 3:09:00 PM
From: Doug R	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2377

CS, "if you think... that I will not use every technique possible to out-trade you and take your money in any way I can so I can put braces on my kid's teeth and send them to private school..." So what you're saying is that anything said by a market maker here should be heavily discounted. Also, in your opinion, are there any companies with low-priced stocks that are ever worth buying and holding for more than a day or two (maybe even several months) It seems to me that market maker activity becomes moot in those cases so I pay little attention to it. And, are you aware of anyone that can always pick a stock that will go up considerably in a short time? My horizon for short-term is about 3 months. Doug R