To: epicure who wrote (258858 ) 8/25/2014 2:34:30 PM From: koan Read Replies (1) | Respond to We have had different experiences in life it appears. I found, by and large, my teachers at my community college to be as good as my teachers at my state college or the university I attended. I feel I learned equal amounts at all three institutions for all practical purposes. My real awakening happened at San Jose State which had a top notch philosophy department, not the university of Washington. <<Beautiful and wise baristas, waitresses and sales clerks. You bet they don't make what an engineer makes. You don't need to go to college to become liberally educated- although I grant you, many auto-didacts refuse to read outside their area of interest- which can make them limited boobs, who are under the delusion they are highly educated. But I've met many limited boobs in the liberal arts departments of colleges- so I'm really not a fan. Some of the stupidest people I ever met were teaching me classes in the general ed I had to take. I can't recall any stupid science teachers- but oh boy, I had an absolute cretin for Native American studies (which I had to take as part of the moronic "breadth" requirement). And I met some real dipshits in the English department. My AP class is loads more work than any of the 100 or 200 level classes I took, or that my friends took. Not that I didn't appreciate how ridiculously easy the liberal arts classes were, as I labored in my truly difficult math, chem and bio classes- but learning to think? Maybe, at really top notch universities, with really fine minds. But liberal arts in the Cal State System, or at other lower level colleges- in classes full of mediocre minds, and taught by mediocre teachers? It's highway robbery for the students- and a trip to an impoverished life after college. I can remember 3 decent liberal arts teachers- one in philosophy - but it was an upper division class of medical ethics; one was my upper division comp teacher, who was a ball buster, but very smart, and one history teacher. Most of the learning in the liberal arts classes was wrote learning, or meandering, unfocused intellectually lazy discussions by "professors" who couldn't be bothered to really teach.
