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To: i-node who wrote (806945)9/16/2014 6:44:50 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578245
 
President Obama has said there would be no "boots on the ground" in the fight to stamp out ISIS in Iraq and Syria, but the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday that he would recommend ...

Obama doesn't have a history of following military leadership advice. And it hasn't worked out well (see: Afghanistan and Iraq, both problems that were made far worse by Obama's arrogant incompetence).


Excuse me but he followed the advice of the generals in Afghanistan and they fucked it up. The surge didn't work. In fact, the US military has not performed very well in either Iraq or Afghanistan. Now its possible that maybe no military could have performed well in those environments but its very clear that the US military was not a huge success. So I don't trust they know what they are doing.

But that isn't even the point...........if your boss says something, you don't go out and say something else. Obama is the POTUS and his Commander in Chief......that asshole general needs to show some respect. If he disagrees with the president, he needs to follow the chain of command.



To: i-node who wrote (806945)9/16/2014 6:46:55 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 1578245
 
Obama doesn't have a history of following military leadership advice.
Thank God for that! The military sees a military solution to every problem, for the greater good of the military-industrial complex. So the joint chiefs can "retire" to a sweet figurehead CEO or board position for some military contractor. And the wheel goes round..

Obama did listen to Petraeus, who convinced him that a "surge" in Afghanistan would solve that problem, much to my disgust. He learned that Petraeus was an asshat, and had led him into error.



To: i-node who wrote (806945)9/16/2014 8:48:54 PM
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Obomber has at least 1,600 pair of boots on the ground already.



To: i-node who wrote (806945)12/21/2014 1:01:48 PM
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koan stated he would throw in the towel on Obama if he put boots on the ground.

wanna bet he changes his mind again?

U.S. Soldiers Fight Islamic State in Iraq, Kurds Advance
By Zainab Fattah and Aziz Alwan December 20, 2014


Smoke rises during the clashes between Peshmerga forces and Islamic State militants in Sinjar district of Mousul, Iraq, yesterday. Kurdish forces kept up pressure in the north of Iraq by retaking the southern part of the Sinjar Mountains, freeing about 1,500 trapped families from the Yazidi religious minority, an Iraqi official said. Photographer: Emrah Yorulmaz/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images

U.S. soldiers clashed with Islamic State militants, helping the Iraqi army repel attacks against the town of al-Baghdadi in the western Anbar province, Al Jazeera TV reported, as Kurdish forces advanced in the north.

The U.S. troops were from al-Assad military base, the biggest in Anbar, First Lieutenant Muneer al-Qoud from the Iraqi police said by phone. Meanwhile, a U.S. senior military official said there are no U.S. ground troops fighting in Iraq, though forces can engage in self-defense if required.

The clashes may mark the first time U.S. ground forces have engaged Islamic State militants since President Barack Obama authorized air strikes against the al-Qaeda breakaway group in August. A ground conflict would signal a policy shift for Obama, who made pulling the U.S. out of Iraq the centerpiece of his first presidential campaign and oversaw the withdrawal of combat forces from the country in 2011.

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The senior military official said the U.S. mission in Iraq is to prepare and support the country in fighting Islamic State forces, and no engagement with militant forces was being tracked.

Kurdish forces kept up pressure in the north of Iraq by retaking the southern part of the Sinjar Mountains, freeing about 1,500 trapped families from the Yazidi religious minority, an Iraqi official said.

Air StrikesThe Peshmerga, as the Kurdish fighters are known, are still battling Islamic State near Sinjar city. They’re being aided by air strikes and intelligence from U.S.-led alliance forces, Noureddin Qablan, deputy chief of the Nineveh provincial council, said by phone.

VIDEO: Taliban Attack Won't Change U.S.-Pakistan Ties: Kirby
Kurdish troops advanced in the contested northern Syrian town of Kobani after heavy clashes with Islamic State, the Associated Press reported.

American troops are protecting U.S. facilities and assisting the Iraqi military in Baghdad and Kurdish fighters in Erbil in the north. Obama has approved almost doubling the number of military advisers, trainers and support personnel in the country.

Islamic State fighters hold much of northern Iraq after ousting government forces from Mosul in June. The group has swept over large swaths of Syria and Iraq and declared a Muslim caliphate in areas under its control. Human rights organizations have said the militants have carried out mass killings of captured Iraqi Shiite troops, beheaded religious minorities and forced women into sexual slavery.

VIDEO: Kerry Seeks Vote in Congress to Fight Islamic State
The siege of thousands of Yazidis was cited as the main reason prompting U.S. air strikes in August. U.S. planes started by dropping food and water to the trapped people, who fled as Islamic State advanced and took over large parts of Iraq and Syria.

To contact the reporters on this story: Zainab Fattah in Dubai at zfattah@bloomberg.net; Aziz Alwan in Baghdad at aalwan1@bloomberg.net

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Andrew Blackman at ablackman@bloomberg.net; Alaa Shahine at asalha@bloomberg.net Samuel Potter, Paul Abelsky