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To: cfimx who wrote (6183)	12/16/1997 11:51:00 AM
From: Bald Eagle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anywhere that it said Sun was going to resell Intel products. Of course, twisted, we know that you never let facts get in the way of what you post.:-) I guess we'll find out for sure in an hour or two.

To: cfimx who wrote (6183)	12/16/1997 12:03:00 PM
From: Babu Arunachalam	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 64865

Solaris already exists on Intel processors. SUN will never resell Microsoft products only and that's what Scott and his army are so staunch about. What makes you think that SPARC is down and out? Intel has finally concluded that RISC is a better architecture than CISC amidst all the discussions that RISC is not a viable alternative. I read about a lecture from one of Microsoft's R&D people about future technologies (I forgot his name but it was in USC) and he was SKEPTIC about RISC technology. What a joke!! The fastest scalable computers today are all built on RISC processors apart from Mainframes where the hardware costs are exhorbitant. SUN's announcement means that they won't let Microsoft eat away all the profits from that segment. As long as SUN builds computers (it's like saying as long the Sun rises in the East) it's going to be on SPARC and they have an announcement earlier that UltraSPARC III would be out in the middle of 1998 (??) which would be faster than the Merced chip to be delivered in 1999. The problem with this superfast UltraSPARC chip is the enormous power dissipation. I wonder how Merced compares with this. Nobody knows better than SUN how to build scalable and fast COMPUTERS and also write the operating system that goes with it. Compaq and the rest are years behind. ONLY IBM knows better than SUN but they are dependent on Intel to build scalable computers - so their time to deliver depends on Intel too. Cheers, Babu

To: cfimx who wrote (6183)	12/16/1997 3:31:00 PM
From: Chung Yang	Respond to of 64865

Yeah! that is why Sun Microelectronics, a sub-sidiary of Sun Micro is opening up an east coast design center to double the number of designers for Sparc and Java processors. - Chung >>> Well, it's clear that what I see before me minions is the begining...of the end...of Scottie's (my) lone arrowhead ("we're going to put all our wood behind one arrowhead"), SPARC. Bye Bye SPARC, I knew thee well! But now I must figure a way to get from here...in SPARCLAND...to there...the promised land. Oh what a tortuous path ahead of me!!! And once there...how to fight the giant and lean dragons there awaiting their latecoming prey. But alas!! I recall in a dream that I was once there before and I am thankful you will have me back. For this gesture I promise not to trash you anymore when I speak at conferences. And now how do I make my SUNW different and unique from those here before me. And..what of my SPARC partners who I promised the world, and a clone business to? And what to tell my customers having once told them SPARC forever...just like the Apple II. And how do I erase from NEXIS/LEXIS my infamous words spoken after a tough hockey loss and a few buds that I would never ever ever never be a reseller of INTEL OR MICROSOFT product. One down, one to go. <<<

To: cfimx who wrote (6183)	12/17/1997 1:12:00 AM
From: LKO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

> Well, it's clear that what I see before me minions is the > begining...of the end...of Scottie's (my) lone arrowhead ("we're > going to put all our wood behind one arrowhead"), SPARC. Bye Bye > SPARC, I knew thee well! But now I must figure a way to get from > here...in SPARCLAND...to there...the promised land. Oh You are reading too much between the lines. Sun has a strategy (not very successful so far) to try to sell its operating system Solaris on Sparc and other volume platforms as well. It was ported but discontinued for PowerPC as that platform did not reach volume. To develop an operating system on a new chip requires cooperating with its vendor (which has a strategy of proliferating its chips on as many OS communities). The OS runs on 486/Pentium chips already but Merced is new and there is always some harware specific code in operating systems. Parts of Sun and parts of Intel compete with each other...Sure, but there is nothing wrong with pursuing a strategy which gives a slice of the market to both and customers get a choice.