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To: Brumar89 who wrote (61976)11/4/2014 9:42:36 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 69300
 
Those are indeed made up fables. And very foolish for them to slavishly bow down .... Well, there you go, what are the true origins of your religion which emulated and rose out of what went before. What the Jews patterned themselves after, what they took from Egypt, then Babylon/Canaanite/Assyrians , then Persian & Greeks, incorporating as they went along adding their own tribal genetic modifications.

What gods there were and gods that have ever been, were always created by man's own imagination. What is the highest good, the golden mean of moderate philosophical virtuous & moral living comes from experience and naturally evolves but varies as we see from people to people, tribe to tribe.

But you are free to sit in churches & wait for magic signs from above, while listening to preachers fawningly imitate the pragmatic interpretations of Aristotelian instruction.






To: Brumar89 who wrote (61976)11/4/2014 9:51:58 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
You think the Instructions & Proverbs of Amenemope are questionable 1300BC era which the Hebrews stole, lets try the maxims of Ptahotep from the 5th Dynasty Egypt (ca. 2414-2375 BC).

Nothing is clearer than Judaism was only a miniature imitation of that supreme ruling religious power in the Levant, Mycenaen & Mesopotamian areas, even influenced the Phoenicians(and they them). Here's the true genesis of moral codes & attributing all things good to the divine, Judaism wanders in over 2000yrs later trying to insinutate itself into this mix but the foundational ground work was already completely laid.

Like evolution, complexity always rises out of previous simpler forms, these are so very insightful hardly anything in the bible or torah surpasses it 2000yrs later.

  • "Great is the Law ( Maat)." (p. 24)
  • "All conduct should be so straight that you can measure it with a plumb-line." (p. 27)
  • "Injustice exists in abundance, but evil can never succeed in the long run." (p. 32)
  • "Punish with principle, teach meaningfully. The act of stopping evil leads to the lasting establishment of virtue." (p. 32)
  • "The human race never accomplishes anything. It's what God commands that gets done." (p. 41)
  • "Those whom God guides do not go wrong. Those whose boat He takes away cannot cross." (p. 43)
  • "Follow your heart all your life, do not commit excess with respect to what has been ordained." (p. 66)
  • "If you work hard, and if growth takes place as it should in the fields, it is because God has placed abundance in your hands." (p. 74)
  • "Do not gossip in your neighbourhood, because people respect the silent." (p. 74)
  • "Listening benefits the listener." (p. 74)
  • "If he who listens, listens fully, then he who listens becomes he who understands." (p. 76)
  • "He who listens becomes the master of what is profitable." (p. 76)
  • "To listen is better than anything, thus is born perfect love." (p. 76)
  • "God loves he who listens. He hates those who do not listen." (p. 76)
  • "As for the ignorant man who does not listen, he accomplishes nothing. He equates knowledge with ignorance, the useless with the harmful. He does everything which is detestable, so people get angry with him each day." (p. 77)
  • "A perfect word is hidden more deeply than precious stones. It is to be found near the servants working at the mill-stone." (p. 78)
  • "Only speak when you have something worth saying." (p. 79)
  • "As for you, teach your disciple the words of tradition. May he act as a model for the children of the great, that they may find in him the understanding and justice of every heart that speaks to him, since man is not born wise." (p. 85)
  • "A woman with happy heart brings equilibrium." (p. 107)
  • "Love your wife with passion." (p. 107)
  • "As for those who end up continually lusting after women, none of their plans will succeed." (p. 108)
  • "How wonderful is a son who obeys his father!" (p. 112)
  • "How happy he is of whom it is said: 'A son is kind-natured when he knows how to listen.'" (p. 112)
  • "Do not blame those who are childless, do not criticise them for not having any, and do not boast about having them yourself." (p. 113)
  • "May your heart never be vain because of what you know. Take counsel from the ignorant as well as the wise..." (p. 119)
  • "So do not place any confidence in your heart in the accumulation of riches, since everything that you have is a gift from God." (p. 126)
  • "Think of living in peace with what you possess, and whatever the Gods choose to give will come of its own accord." (p. 127)
  • "Do not repeat a slanderous rumour, do not listen to it." (p. 139)
  • "He who has a great heart has a gift from God. He who obeys his stomach obeys the enemy." (p. 140)
  • "Those who[m] the Gods guide cannot get lost. Those they forbid passage will not be able to cross the river of life." (p. 143)




  • To: Brumar89 who wrote (61976)11/4/2014 11:10:20 PM
    From: Solon  Respond to of 69300
     
    Just 2 of many primitive places where you fill up with the hatred for atheists:

    "Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall be put to death. The whole community shall stone him." Leviticus 24:15

    "He that believeth not shall be damned." Mark 16:16

    So you think people of other beliefs or those who are not superstitious at all should be killed? Any particular logical reason for that other than obviously using fear and threats to force obedience and submission??

    I thought you were against tyrants? Oh...those tyrants--not your own! :-)