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Technology Stocks : MSFT Internet Explorer vs. NSCP Navigator -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15239)	12/20/1997 10:16:00 AM
From: Dermot Burke	Respond to of 24154

The grotesquely profitable bundling/integration into the OS update process, which is available to MSFT(unfettered,until now)due to the maturation of their monopoly status-v3.1 to the win95/internet upgrade explosion of money---this is the true target of the DOJ action.How DOJ gets the result depends on the course of the fight.I guarentee DOJ -and Lessings,Boies coming aboard should confirm--will not allow MSFT to close this business due to stuff like ie uninstall/extract files interpretations or snickering over an older white guys (da judge) PC literacy level.This one's going all the way Reggimond.As you are beginning to sense the legal assault is broader than merely hair-splitting the previous decree from '94. How much MSFT market cap are we down so far?...this is only the first inning.You can't sweep things under the rug in DC after the dirts public.This whole thing should have been handled quietly before all this took off.Remember who to blame though.Bill Gates was quoted saying the 94 decree "means nothing" or words to that effect. Chaz,your reply#15219 re uninstall problem as it relates to strategy is right there and I agree about its implications regarding other MSFT brand apps.MHO only.

To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15239)	12/20/1997 11:41:00 AM
From: John F. Dowd	Respond to of 24154

Dear Reg: I don't see a lot of difference to tell the truth. Of course I own a Mac and therefore am totally objective concerning this whole topic. Actually the MAc version cannot imbed HTML dynamically into mail. And NSCP has a very tight intergration between its mail module and the browser. Come to think of it should NSCP separate its Mail "Messenger" from the rest of the browser? I mean, come on, this might be seen as an unfair advantage by DOJ some day. Keep fighting on! And please get your finger off the down button. JF Dowd

To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15239)	12/20/1997 1:31:00 PM
From: nommedeguerre	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Reggie, If Netscape were installed on every machine delivered and was made difficult to remove I think its browser share would go up as well. Anybody who embeds an application you cannot remove into a Windows delivery would see its share rise. Maybe I could make some money by writing a software "wedge" that allows third parties to "embed" their applications within the framework of "key" DLL's. Specialized DLL's could be popular and beneficial to the user who want an OS which is optimized for their favorite apps rather than optimized for whichever apps MSFT wants to be their favorite. This could be fun. Take it easy, Norm

To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (15239)	12/20/1997 3:47:00 PM
From: Schiz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24154

The market seems to be demanding the IE4 product. The governemnt cannot legislate the market, only the market participants and thier actions. This is because ie is on all new computers that ship with windows, not because ie is better than nav. This is what the doj is trying to prevent. If ms could market and seell ie on a level playing field that would be ok. They have an obvious advantage and that must change. For the good of the future of computing.